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Yeah. It was intended as a joke in the 80s - today, not so much,
Did you mean the book or the film? Most Americans don't read so I'm guessing you are referring to the film.
That was an attempt at humor.I guess it depends on who you hang out with... everybody I know is a reader.
You'll get no argument from me on that.But IMO, whoever emptied out the hospitals it wasn't a good move. People that used to be committed are now part of the revolving door of the justice system (i can't believe they do well in jail or prison), or they are living on the streets.
Interesting bit from the source you provided:
We need to be very careful in this arena. They can use this to keep lots of people from owning/purchasing firearms that probably aren't mass murderers. This mindset will invite more legislation like i-1639 to discern your mental state before allowing firearm ownership. It may deter people from seeking any sort of mental health services for fear of losing their right to own or purchase firearms.I agree the mental health system is broken and needs to be fixed.
However I really dont like throwing everyone with mental illness under the bus. Anxiety, depression, phobias, PTSD, etc. there are many forms of mental illness and for the most part, mentally ill people are not any more dangerous than anyone else. Many good people struggle with mental health issues and they dont deserve to lose there rights on top of it. Until someone starts making threats of violence, exhibiting violent behavior, or proves the cant control there actions, I think they should be considered innocent until proven guilty.
I fear too that we will be painted with a broad brush. Will a DUI or a drunk and disorderly get you disarmed - even if you are not carrying? This is a real threat. The law, if we must have one at all, must be framed so as to cover only those with documented multiple and/or serious contacts with government or mental health agencies for mental health related reasons. Various diagnoses lead to patients hearing voices and occasionally those voices spur them to commit violence. Suicidal thoughts or action should be given particularly high priority, as each of the shooters and many "suicide by cop" individuals are a danger. We were taught that suicide = homicide, since, if their life means nothing to them, neither does yours. We see this played out in virtually all of the shootings.We need to be very careful in this arena. They can use this to keep lots of people from owning/purchasing firearms that probably aren't mass murderers. This mindset will invite more legislation like i-1639 to discern your mental state before allowing firearm ownership. It may deter people from seeking any sort of mental health services for fear of losing their right to own or purchase firearms.
Absolutely.We need to be very careful in this arena. They can use this to keep lots of people from owning/purchasing firearms that probably aren't mass murderers. This mindset will invite more legislation like i-1639 to discern your mental state before allowing firearm ownership. It may deter people from seeking any sort of mental health services for fear of losing their right to own or purchase firearms.
I think that means the public also doesn't want people with mental health issues owning guns.
Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns
In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.www.nbcnews.com
Yep, and not just veterans. Alot of good people darn near lost there rights over that one.Only thing this 'grand' gesture by obama affected was veterans who had a person helping them with their gov't checks--those people haven't hurt anyone
I think that means the public also doesn't want people with mental health issues owning guns.
Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns
In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.www.nbcnews.com
Absolutely.
Mental illness and mentally deranged (if thats the right term) are two very different things... but not to a gun grabber.
A quick google search says 1 in 5 adults suffer from mental illness in America.
Like I said, we need to remember, anxiety, depression, phobias, PTSD, Seasonal Affective Disorder, Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), etc. Are all diagnosed as mental illness. The gun grabbers would be more than happy to strip rights from these people for no just reason and with no due process.
Should a Veteran suffering PTSD be stripped of his/her rights? Should a person suffering anxiety or depression lose there right to defend themselves? Is a person that's unreasonably afraid of hights unfit to own a gun? What about someone with ADD/ADHD, are they a danger? The gun grabber would say yes.