7.62 x 51 Which would be better AR or M1A?

[H2O MAN]

I can get the weight down to about 8.5 lbs, but my typical builds end up closer to 10 lbs. as pictured & unloaded. The CQB-16 has a standard weight barrel, the new one has a medium heavy 22" barrel.

 

[3MTA3]

I can get the weight down to about 8.5 lbs, but my typical builds end up closer to 10 lbs. as pictured & unloaded. The CQB-16 has a standard weight barrel, the new one has a medium heavy 22" barrel.

The cool factor on that is over the top (who makes this chassis?), but for the weight difference I'll stick with my Adams small frame .308 piston, which as pictured weighs about 10 lbs.

 

[H2O MAN]

Very nice!

The M14 / M1A chassis system is the Blackfeather "RS", imported from Canada.

 

[Backfire]

I favor the M1A for its reliability and accuracy potential. 5-round magazines are available for it, and I've gotten satisfying results with 150 gr spire points and Sierra 168 gr HPBT Match bullets.

 

[DeanMk]

Which is going to be better for general hunting/use? I tend to favor the M1A with a polymer stock, but I'm open to suggestions.

Any of the Savage bolt actions, actually.
Excellent gun at a great price point.

Dean

 

[BroncoFan]

I've carried and qual'd on both platforms. For some reason I'm far more quick and accurate with my M1a Scout - from contact drills to several hundred yds. I absolutely love the thing. I sold my AR10; For me it was an ok rifle but nothing compared to the scout

 

[Certaindeaf]

If I had to carry one around quite a bit, probably AR10, if it was more of a bench/bipod gun, probably more interested in the M1A.

True. I think legend has it that an AR-10 weighed less than an AR-15 when the 15's were featherweight.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

If it was me ... I'd get an M1A or the M1A Scout model in Walnut.
But then I only have experience with a M21 and not any real shooting time with an AR 10 , other than a few times at the range with a friends AR 10 type rifle.
Of course there is the fact that at times , I have been accused of putting the "Old" in Old School ... LOL
Andy

 

[H2O MAN]

The AR10 is more of a fixed position rifle, where as the M14/M1A is more of a general purpose iron sight rifle that you carry with you.

 

[ron]

An AR-10 will be a pound or more lighter and have better ergonomics due to pistol grip, adjustable stock, and safety selector. The AR design is inherently very accurate and recoil is a straight line to the shoulder. With a decent trigger upgrade (that doesn't require a gunsmith) it matches the M1A for accuracy. Scope mounting is easy due to the integral picatinny rail and the rifle is almost infinity configurable to match the needs of the shooter. Iron sights are not always included. It will also tend to be less expensive than an M1A.

The M1A is beautiful, accurate, and as reliable as a semi-auto can get - what's not to like in yet another John Browning knock it out of the park design? The safety selector is intuitive and by it's own nature ambidextrous. Scope mounts via adapter that screws into the side like an AK-47. Iron sights are built in and excellent. There is a SOCOM 16 QCB rifle that has both pistol grip and adjustable stock, but weight increases to nearly 9 1/4 lbs.

I have 0 experience with the 308 AR platform. But I am interested in getting one.
I have owned several M1As. Shot many matches with one. I love the accuracy
of the M1A. That being said I don't think it is suitable hunting rifle. IMHO
Good thread good info.
My custom build NM Springer.

 

[H2O MAN]

Suppressed sub MOA accurate Shorty M14



Same rifle, different furniture.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Cool rifle ... I like how the angle of the pic makes the suppressor look as long or longer than the barrel LOL!
Andy

 

[H2O MAN]

This standard in a Blackfeather RS with MBSA/Magpul SGA weighs in at 9 lbs. without the magazine & sling.

 

[DeanMk]

...btw, if the op decides on the M14, and he plans to hunt in heavy brush, <broken link removed> might keep him from getting caught up in low hanging branches.


Dean

 

[H2O MAN]

Rogue conversion kits, Gen I & II

 

[3MTA3]

Rogue conversion kits, Gen I & II

Now that's intriguing! What's it like for total weight and how is the trigger pull? So far my only reservation about the M1A is the weight - some of them fancy chassis need wheels and a handle or perhaps a trailer hitch.

 

[The Heretic]

FN-FAL

 

[H2O MAN]

Now that's intriguing! What's it like for total weight and how is the trigger pull? So far my only reservation about the M1A is the weight - some of them fancy chassis need wheels and a handle or perhaps a trailer hitch.

The trigger pull isn't bad, but the bull pup conversion kit adds too much weight... it's a boat anchor. When it comes to chassis stocks, I prefer the lightweight Blackfeather RS.

 

[The Heretic]

I used to own this (literally - that is my pic which that site stole and put their name on it):



One inch diameter Krieger SS 18" barrel. Burris 4x12x scope. McMillian fiberglass stock.

Twelve pounds as pictured.

Shot less than 0.5 MOA in my inept hands with the right ammo.

Not a hunting rifle, a compact sniper rifle. Trigger pull was excellent.

AWC G2A - most of them custom built. Quite accurate. Tensioned barrel. A number of different variations on the theme.

I really like bullpups, even with the weight, it was great handling, just not something I would want to go hunting with. I don't hunting anymore, but if I did, it would be with a CZ carbine in 7.62x39 or a lever action in .30-30, not a heavy semi-auto.

 

[H2O MAN]

It's amazing how high above the bore you have to position the optic in bull pup configuration, I ended up using a 5/8" riser. I wish the manufacturer of the Blackfeather could make a lightweight conversion kit for the US market...