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7.62 x 51 Which would be better AR or M1A?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Captain O, Jul 16, 2016.

  1. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Which is going to be better for general hunting/use? I tend to favor the M1A with a polymer stock, but I'm open to suggestions.
     
  2. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    As a long time AR-10 owner, I'm partial to the M1A, or the M24 Sniper Rifle. Battle tested design and a long distinguished history. The Springfield M1A's have a 1:11 twist, which stabilizes (above 2.5) M80 147gr all the way to 175gr, which gives you a wide compatibility with ammo. My AR can't shoot M80 worth a darn, and has been mostly reliable but the majority of battle rifles worth a darn have piston actuated actions, and I just have more confidence in them and they tend to have almost mythological reliability (SKS, AK, FN-FAL, M1A, etc). Definitely stick to the .30 cal family though if you want an all-around hunting rig.
     
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  3. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Money no object, All things consider M1A would be my choice. YMMV

    Brutus out
     
  4. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    I have a Spanish Mauser (short barrel, bolt action) that shoots well, but I would love to have an M1A with a polymer stock. I sold my M1 Garand, (it was too heavy for me). Since daddy was Navy Rifle Team/ UDT (Frogman) I learned from the best.

    My heart belongs to the .30-06, but I will settle for the .308 Winchester (7.62 x 51).

    Lord, I'm getting old. :s0118:
     
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  5. No_Regerts

    No_Regerts United States Well-Known Member

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    The M1A wont solve the heavy thing. What you save in wood foregrip pieces, you gain right back if you use the standard 20 round magazine. AR10s arent light either.

    Is this strictly a hunting rifle? I wouldnt lug around any semi-auto, especially one with a larger box magazine.
     
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  6. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps I should just buy a Remington self-loader in .30-'06. A 22" barrel would work rather well.
     
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  7. H2O MAN

    H2O MAN Georgia - USA Well-Known Member

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    You are well antiquated with the M1 Garand, so the M14/M1A should be an easy transition for you. If weight is a concern, stick with a standard weight barrel, 22" for iron sights, 18" if you plan to use an optic.
     
  8. Oregon Quartermaster

    Oregon Quartermaster SE Portland Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    M1A, 22" barrel.
     
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  9. No_Regerts

    No_Regerts United States Well-Known Member

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    Browning BAR wouldn't be a bad choice either if you had to have a semi-auto.

    Ive never been a fan of semi-autos for hunting because they are heavier, noisy when chambering a round and get crud and brass chips in the actions.
     
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  10. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    If you're just wanting a hunting rig, a lever action or bolt action is best. Personally, levers are the way to go for any mixed hardwood/conifer terrain, where you'd rarely make a shot over 100 yds. A .444 Marlin has an effective range beyond that even. Bolt action could be a nice bench shooter as well as a hunting rig, especially if you're thinking of hunting cervids in savannah or desert terrain out to 3 or 4 hundred yards. A semi auto rifle for hunting is kind of a hindrance. You'd have to have a 5 round mag 'pinned' in during hunting season to hunt with an AR or M1A (at least in Oregon).
     
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  11. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    I know this. Dad had a Remington 740 back in the '60s with a Leupold "Gold Ring" scope. Perhaps I should look into a bolt action '06 to replace the Spanish Mauser. (The rifle is okay, but I'm fond of the 150 grain Sierra Boat Tail Spitzer). They worked for Dad.

    He's been gone almost 41 years. God help me, I miss him so.
     
  12. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    I fell in love with the M1A.. While I lust after an AR 10 (and variants), Im quite happy with what I currently have.

    Reliability and parts/accessories have really come a long ways for the AR10's (and variants).. Where as the M1A is less modular and can be a little bit of a pain to fullt break down (op rod)
     
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  13. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    Choices, Choices! I have no problems with any of the recommendations! So, Fraid i'm not much help here, For the money, it's really hard to beat a Tikka T-3! If you really want an auto, that Browning BAR would be just about perfect!
     
  14. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    If it helps, I own a bolt action 308. However I shot a very nice, high end, semi AR10 build today out to 450 that put my bolt gun to shame.
     
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  15. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, unless you like weight or just used to hiking long distances with said weight, just get a bolt action rifle.

    Between the two, I'm partial to the AR-10, simply because it isn't so open and takes less effort to make it accurate, and even less effort to maintain its accuracy. The AR-10 doesn't have common parts like the AR-15 does though. Other than that, a quality M14 (or M1A I suppose) is a good option as well.

    Or have both, never hurts to diversify. Despite what the banks say.
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    If I had 3-4 grand to blow, id go with a OBR. Very accurate but cost 2x or more then a M1a1
     
  17. Camelfilter

    Camelfilter Salem Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I didn't know the 5 rounder had to be pinned, that seems a hassle.

    -Not to thread drift-

    Can we (in Oregon) hunt with no mag in place using a semi-auto? ie single shot?

    Thanks!
     
  18. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    We're just restricted to a five-round magazine. The magazine cannot accept more than five rounds. That is all... I have no further information. ;)
     
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    Camelfilter Salem Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Ahh now that seems reasonable. Thanks!
     
  20. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Unless that's a new "rule", I think you're mistaken about that magazine being pinned in... can you cite the ODFW regulation that states that?

    I've legally hunted over the years with a 5-round mag in an AR (and an AK) for the 4-legged critters that are in season with a couple of 30-rounders in my cargo pocket for the 2-legged "critters" that may decide to come out of the bushes & get... frisky. o_O
     
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