Your significant other and your guns?

[CLT65]

I feel like there's some backstory that needs illuminating; like I walked in mid-way thru the movie. How did you lose all your guns in 98, and what 'struggle' are you talking about?

tac is in the UK. They banned handguns in '98, had to turn them all in for destruction.

 

[surevaliance]

Her new WASR-10

 

[CLT65]

Someone above mentioned when you're young and dumb it's just pure luck to land the right mate.

So much truth in that, and I sincerely believe it's a maturity thing. My kids are young yet, but I really want to try to raise them to be able choose wisely when the time comes, rather than just run on hormones.

 

[tac]

I feel like there's some backstory that needs illuminating; like I walked in mid-way thru the movie. How did you lose all your guns in 98, and what 'struggle' are you talking about?

By 1998, in the aftermath of the Dunblane Massacre a couple of years previously, in which a known pedophile walked into Dunblane School and slaughtered sixteen 1st grade children and their teacher, ALL cartridge-firing handguns were made into prohibited weapons on mainland UK - England, Scotland and Wales. There were only 57,000 legal handgun owners, with a total of ~103,000 handguns that fired cartridges.

We were made to hand them in, or to suffer the consequences of not doing so. We handed them in - after all, they had been registered, so the police knew exactly who owned what. Also included in the hand-in were any reloading components, cases, bullets primers, that kind of thing, unless you wanted to carry on using a pistol calibre underlever, of course. And for the eight or nine thousand who shot police pistol or IPSC, all the leatherwork. Seventeen companies making specialist pistol stuff went out of business, and around a hundred and fifty gun clubs closed down forever. Only within the last year has the GB pistol team, who shoot .22 target pistol, been allowed to shoot them IN the UK, at a specially-secured and bunkered facility at Bisley National Shooting Centre. Before that they had to practice in Switzerland, in a club, the British Alpine Gun Club, set up by a few ex-pats and given the blessing of the Swiss government.

Northern Ireland was exempted from the ban - you can still have any kind of pistol there, and the Irish IPSC team is one to beat.

Black powder front-loaders were exempt the ban, but my wife gave up the struggle of loading 'em up and shooting them, then having to do it again. So she gave up shooting completely.

We have the so-called 'long-barrelled' revolvers and .22 semi-auto pistols here now, and I have a .357 Mag Ruger Super Redhawk. Because of the law, nobody but me can shoot it....

 

[leadcounsel]

Ah, thanks for the explanation. That is tragic. I'm somewhat familiar with the event. I lived in Scotland briefly not far from Dunblane just before it happened. As tragic was the death of the kids, the real tragedy is the loss of liberty for coming generations. The same shortsighted response has happened around globe, most recently in NZ. Nobody wants dead kids, but the solution is not and never has been banning guns. Yet... The weak stomach lack of resolve of the politicians to harm the liberty of the innocent gun owners when a single tragedy strikes, is a double sickening event.

To clarify, how many innocent people have died their own silent lonely deaths being unable to defend themselves in the decades since? Probably well more than blamed on guns in Dunblane. How many will suffer and die in the future because they are disarmed? History is a good teacher and it repeats itself. I'd estimate that number will be in the millions of people... as soon as the next massive human violent collision of ideas occurs.

 

[Member 52301]

By 1998, in the aftermath of the Dunblane Massacre a couple of years previously, in which a known pedophile walked into Dunblane School and slaughtered sixteen 1st grade children and their teacher, ALL cartridge-firing handguns were made into prohibited weapons on mainland UK - England, Scotland and Wales. There were only 57,000 legal handgun owners, with a total of ~103,000 handguns that fired cartridges.

We were made to hand them in, or to suffer the consequences of not doing so. We handed them in - after all, they had been registered, so the police knew exactly who owned what. Also included in the hand-in were any reloading components, cases, bullets primers, that kind of thing, unless you wanted to carry on using a pistol calibre underlever, of course. And for the eight or nine thousand who shot police pistol or IPSC, all the leatherwork. Seventeen companies making specialist pistol stuff went out of business, and around a hundred and fifty gun clubs closed down forever. Only within the last year has the GB pistol team, who shoot .22 target pistol, been allowed to shoot them IN the UK, at a specially-secured and bunkered facility at Bisley National Shooting Centre. Before that they had to practice in Switzerland, in a club, the British Alpine Gun Club, set up by a few ex-pats and given the blessing of the Swiss government.

Northern Ireland was exempted from the ban - you can still have any kind of pistol there, and the Irish IPSC team is one to beat.

Black powder front-loaders were exempt the ban, but my wife gave up the struggle of loading 'em up and shooting them, then having to do it again. So she gave up shooting completely.

We have the so-called 'long-barrelled' revolvers and .22 semi-auto pistols here now, and I have a .357 Mag Ruger Super Redhawk. Because of the law, nobody but me can shoot it....

Hello,

Thanks again for the explanation.

When you turned in ALL, gasp, of your handguns shy of your 'black powder handguns' and the 357Magnum Redhawk mentioned above... did you get PAID good money for all of your handguns or break even, at least?

Did you break even or make more when you had to turn in all of your other gun GEAR plus ALL of those reloading supplies and equipment?

So you only got to keep your BLACK POWDER handguns when all of this came down in the late 90's? Wow!

Did you have to turn in ANY of your rifles and shotguns too?

Do you mainly shoot rifles and/or shotguns now?

(Do you still reload for any of your rifles or shotguns?)

Do you shoot the Redhawk less than the rifles or shotguns?

What does 22lr and 22wmr ammunition cost where you live for a bulk box of 500 rounds (22lr) and for a 50 round box of 22lr and 22wmr?

Did they try to ban and confiscate any of your or your wife's archery equipment?

Any of your knives or axes?

Or do you only keep your knives and axes at home if you are not allowed to travel with them even if a knife is NOT on your body?

I read where the U.K. wanted to screw people who owned sweet, old fashioned pocket knives too.

I wonder how Northern Ireland got to keep what they owned or most of what they owned?! Was the government worried about a huge civil war if they tried to tell them what to do with their guns?

Please accept my apologies if my questions are too personal and if they are - just answer what you feel comfortable in a reply.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Curious Cate in Montana

PS: I wanted to ask some other gun questions about the U.K. and I will do that later on in a NEW thread. Thanks again!

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[tac]

Hello,

Thanks again for the explanation.

When you turned in ALL, gasp, of your handguns shy of your 'black powder handguns' and the 357Magnum Redhawk mentioned above... did you get PAID good money for all of your handguns or break even, at least?

Did you break even or make more when you had to turn in all of your other gun GEAR plus ALL of those reloading supplies and equipment?

So you only got to keep your BLACK POWDER handguns when all of this came down in the late 90's? Wow!

Did you have to turn in ANY of your rifles and shotguns too?

Do you mainly shoot rifles and/or shotguns now?

(Do you still reload for any of your rifles or shotguns?)

Do you shoot the Redhawk less than the rifles or shotguns?

What does 22lr and 22wmr ammunition cost where you live for a bulk box of 500 rounds (22lr) and for a 50 round box of 22lr and 22wmr?

Did they try to ban and confiscate any of your or your wife's archery equipment?

Any of your knives or axes?

Or do you only keep your knives and axes at home if you are not allowed to travel with them even if a knife is NOT on your body?

I read where the U.K. wanted to screw people who owned sweet, old fashioned pocket knives too.

I wonder how Northern Ireland got to keep what they owned or most of what they owned?! Was the government worried about a huge civil war if they tried to tell them what to do with their guns?

Please accept my apologies if my questions are too personal and if they are - just answer what you feel comfortable in a reply.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Curious Cate in Montana

PS: I wanted to ask some other gun questions about the U.K. and I will do that later on in a NEW thread. Thanks again!

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I'll answer ALL these questions in a new thread over on 'off-topic'. okay?

 

[Ops]

stay single buy what you want.

 

[Makers Mark]

While my wife doesn't have the level of interest in guns that I have, she is fine with them and has her own AR15, 10/22, G17, and daily carries an LCP. She understands the basic concept that guns are inanimate objects incapable of harming anyone. She usually votes straight-line pro-2A based on my input, derived from my research on the subject/candidate.

While she grew up with guns in the house, they were mostly used for hunting and pest control on the farm, and don't come remotely close to what we have today both in quantity and frequency of use.

We have been married for 30 some years.

 

[surevaliance]

stay single buy what you want.

A lot of antibiotics?

 

[Member 52301]

I'll answer ALL these questions in a new thread over on 'off-topic'. okay?

Yes, that would be fine.

Thank you!

Cate

 

[revjen45]

stay single buy what you want.
A lot of antibiotics?

Or hand lotion

 

[gjwill46]

This is not a criticism, it's just the use of the word or statement, Fluid, triggered some thinking but I've been doing about what's going on with the Omnibus anti-gun bill in the Oregon legislature. I am very frustrated with the fact that there are people out there that actually consider the Constitution "Fluid." The Constitution is a contract between the government and the governed. That contract was written with the understanding that it was the supreme guideline or law of the land. All other law, in any State, in any municipality would not be allowed to be at cross purposes with this contract language. The actual adherence to, or respect of, that contract might be fluid. It certainly has been abused, ignored and purposely misrepresented. All contracts have the inherent risk of being interpreted differently by different people and if that were not true we would have far fewer lawyers in our nation. But, the contract is the contract and it says what it says. We have a system to verify the proper interpretation of the contract and that is our Judicial system. It has done a mediocre job at best when you consider that they have had 240 years to get it right. ". . .the right of the People to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed." Seems to me to be as clear as a bell. How is it, that after 240 years we are still being infringed all over the place? Because, along the way some people have believed that the Constitution was FLUID. It needs to be understood that this has a different connotation than that of "unsure of its meaning." Fluid indicates that it is not a Contract, but by design, only a Suggestion. Nowhere in any of the documents leading up to the writing of the Constitution is there any indication that the founders considered the Constitution to be merely a "Suggestion." In fact, because it was essentially written to keep Government in check and to protect the minority from the majority, it cannot be Fluid, or the majority would always have its way tromp all over the minority, thus rending the contract useless before the ink dried. If the freedoms and values that made America the envy of the world are to be restored and preserved, the American people will need to reestablish the institutional purity and sanctity of the Constitution and wipe away any notion that it is Fluid.

 

[Tully Mars]

Just wondering how other folks' significant others view their ownership of firearms

Wha???
My significant other are firearms..
Oh crap, you mean my wife, OH ok I get ya.

Seriously, being a southern belle she is completely on board with my passion for firearms. She will get pissed at times for me buying too many. I solve this by buying her a couple. It works well. We honestly have our own separate gun safes-course mine is bigger

 

[OldBroad44]

I feel your pain man. Younger but in the same boat. Here in Oregon its like fishing for a prized blue Marlin in a cesspool.. little hope if any at all.

In the past Ive had all but 3 "tolerate" firearms but they didnt wuite understand the hobby or the politics that come with firearm ownership and the lifestyle (as MANY liberals don't).

Im at a point now where its my way or the highway when it comes to politics and my support of the second Amendment. Just can't cater to their ignorant opinions anymore. Not worth it and it never works out anyway.. Ill still cast my reel in the portland dating cesspool.. but hope is dismal. Glad you found one!

Its always an interesting conversation when actively dating in liberal areas.

Maybe NWFA needs a Singles forum where those seeking like-mind partners can meet each other.

 

[Mygrainman]

I was lucky and married the daughter of a Vietnam Vet. She was raised around guns, and understands the necessity... she has her CPL and carries every day.
I spent a lot on guns after I got my settlement from my car wreck... more than she thought I should at the time. Like the OP did, when the $ ran out and things got lean, I was able to sell them for much more than I had into them... 2 years later the $ and experience from them is still helping us through. She no longer questions any of my gun related purchases....

 

[Diamondback]

Maybe NWFA needs a Singles forum where those seeking like-mind partners can meet each other.

LOL Probably be a Sausage Party...

 

[PNWguy]

LOL Probably be a Sausage Party...

Yeah, I've never seen ANY gun forum with more than half a dozen regular female members out of the 50k or so members.

Then, you will get the occasional female that is attractive and on the liberal/feminist side of things and they say stupid things. When other members call them out on their BS, other male members jump in to defend the woman's honor and it turns into a giant mess with lots of infractions and bannings.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Well, my wife is okay with them, no interest whatsoever. It makes me happy, so she is okay with that. My wife is a nurse, like I am now. I am politically more conservative, but frankly, I am about as conservative as they come. She has some more liberal views, but growing up poor, and rising a few tiers of wealth give me a different perspective.

I am an RN in psych, and frankly stereotypes need not apply. More than half the nurses I work with carry. I have used my guns in self defense and my wife knows she still has me because of my guns, and she once watched me protect a man from being beaten to death, so she sees them differently than she used to.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Maybe NWFA needs a Singles forum where those seeking like-mind partners can meet each other.

Haha that wouldn't be a bad idea.