Wooster Armory Indoor Range Pre-Registration

[nammac]

So here's some of the BS that happened when he first started. I may have eluded to it in the other thread, but heres a bit more detail.
Shortly after he first opened I was in there. Got the tour from the owner, grand plans, gonna get his SOT, have machine guns, Glock master dealer, the works. Range should be open in 6mos if not sooner. Permits already filed.
Then he tells me he's got the same contractor building his place that built SafeFire. Already talking to SafeFire about stuff and everything. Said he was currently doing a "soft open" but should have the shop oficially open in a few months. Cool.

I do mention that the next closest gun shop IS the Glock distributer. He gets kinda huffy saying the Glock rep never told him that, blah blah blah. I know the rep, and he said the guy did contact him, but was just inquiring about becoming a regular dealer.
Anyway, 20min later, I'm talking to someone else who is close friends with the Owner of Safefire and immediately calls them. The Owner of Safefire (OS going forward) had never talked to anybody at Wooster, nor anybody about a new range. Adding on top of that, the contractor that built Safefire is OS's father. So not a chance in hell anything that is being said from Wooster is remotely true at that point.
Flash forward 6mos. The OS goes to visit Wooster. Doesn't tell him who they are, and gets the full tour. Including the spiel about being in talks with Safefire and their contractor. OS starts asking some technical questions about the range, and the answers he gave made it very apparent he had no idea what he was even talking about.

That was my intro to Wooster and why I don't have any expectations that anything will come of it. I've been in a couple times since then, but I've seen nothing to change my mind. Rather, it's just getting more and more reinforced.

Well, that certainly shines a different light on the situation.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Well, that certainly shines a different light on the situation.

+1, no reason to do business with that type of person. I could tell by all the grand claims in the beginning and focus on signs and "what we're gonna do" he is the salesman/con artist/scammer type. My guess is he got some millions from overseas investors. At that time they were desperate to get cash into USA to protect it. Many still are. That's why so much real estate bought here by Chinese rich citizens for example.

 

[AshWilliams]

Any updates on the range from the boys at Wooster? Their website redirects to Facebook now and there are still no updates since Jan 25th.

 

[SCARed]

I've heard more rumors. Less trusted than other info I've received, so I won't post specifics. Other than to say, I feel bad for anyone who signed up for a membership. You may never see what you were promised, and may never see that money again.
I question whether they will be open this time next year.
There may be some shenanigans going on with the owners behind the scenes, that may doom them.

And a little off topic...
I've also heard of shenanigans going on at a certain popular place in Newberg. Sounds like the owner screwed the pooch on another business deal and is making bad decisions with the gun store trying to rectify it. If you've got a consignment going on over there, you may want to pull it. I hear they are robbing Peter to pay Paul with delays and excuses to pay off sold consignments. A core group of employees all left because of it. Didn't want to be on a sinking ship.

Hopefully they turn it around cause I like them. They've got a good mix of guns that you don't see elsewhere.

In for the strike, and I'm out like the wind.

 

[kerotan87]

Well, that certainly shines a different light on the situation.

yea my wife was gonna buy me a membership there and we are glad she didn't. i went there back in september mostly empty cept some assortment of accessories gun counter got some stuff absolute jack bubblegum when it comes to ammo. when i was there all i saw was 380. bunch of building materials in the Range area. sucks honestly i used to go to beavercreek armory when i wanted to take friends out to go shoot something light and be in a safe environment before going to blm land and bring out the big boys. this would of been amazing since the closest places are newberg or the place to shoot. unless im missing somewhere else this is like the NUMBER 1 thing our area could use a proper indoor range even if its just a bunch a pistol and low caliber rifle lanes in the hillsboro/beaverton/aloha hell i'd take cornelius or forest grove at this point.

 

[titsonritz]

Sounds like a Front Sight deal. Dr Ignatius Piazza is that you?

 

[TTSX]

Sounds like a Front Sight deal. Dr Ignatius Piazza is that you?

Been reading up on that. Holy bait and switch batscam

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Ya'll remember when you were back in high school and had that friend that was super psyched about how well things were going with his girlfriend and you sat there listening to him talk about all the plans he had for the summer with her, but your girl already told you that his girlfriend was going to dump him because he couldn't get his act together, but the beer was cold so you just sat there half listening to him listening to Floyd without saying anything because it wasn't your train wreck, and besides, his (soon to be ex) girl was right, he couldn't get his act together, so what was the point of saying anything? It wouldn't change the outcome, so why kill the vibe?



So anyway, I stopped into Wooster Armory today . . .

 

[TTSX]

Did you buy a membership?

 

[AshWilliams]

Were they all dead behind the counters, plague stricken, skeletal, and covered in cobwebs?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Were they all dead behind the counters, plague stricken, skeletal, and covered in cobwebs?

No! It was worse! They were training someone on the new computer system

 

[AshWilliams]

No! It was worse! They were training someone on the new computer system

What's the quote from Peter in "Ghostbusters"?
"You're not going to lose the house. Everybody has three mortgages nowadays."

 

[oremike]

So anyway, I stopped into Wooster Armory today . . .

So was there a sound of saws and hammers you know like construction was going on?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

So was there a sound of saws and hammers you know like construction was going on?

Or a wrecking ball?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

So was there a sound of saws and hammers you know like construction was going on?

Yes, but it was all coming from the work they are doing on the 217. Inside there . . .

 

[doge_patrol]

I'm so disappointed in Wooster Armory. Had such high hopes. Also the fact that they have their huge sign up advertising the range really grinds my gears every time I drive that way and see it. Like cmon man, you seriously still have that still up after all this time?

 

[AshWilliams]

I'm so disappointed in Wooster Armory. Had such high hopes. Also the fact that they have their huge sign up advertising the range really grinds my gears every time I drive that way and see it. Like cmon man, you seriously still have that still up after all this time?

I'm just curious if the issue is with the city of Beaverton somehow denying the permit or if it's with Wooster mismanaging the whole thing.

 

[JuglansRegia]

My hunch, and it's just a hunch, is they didn't sell enough memberships to cover the cost of the construction.

 

[doge_patrol]

My hunch, and it's just a hunch, is they didn't sell enough memberships to cover the cost of the construction.

Not gonna lie, those prices were unreasonable. Maybe that was the root issue.

 

[DLS]

... or if it's with Wooster mismanaging the whole thing.

You line up permit approval BEFORE you move forward with anything else. I know they said (a long time ago) it was a permit issue. If so that was a colossal blunder.

I hope they have the pre-sale membership money in a trust account, as is required by law, but doubt it.

Liars rarely follow the law and they flat out lied about their involvement with SafeFire and SafeFire's contractor.