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I do not think you can just look at those getting a hand out, one must look also at those that work for the state government, they know the dems want a big government. they are voting job security!
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Hi all! Great forum! My first question isnt about guns so please forgive me. I need help understanding us here on the West coast. Are we insane? :huh:Why after such a dismal economy the past few years, primarily due Democrats in power, does Washington Oregon California all have Democrat Governors and two US Senators each today? All six senators are radical women, yes Wyden and Merkley may as well wear dresses, along with Cantwell, Murray, Boxer and Feinstein. Is there something Portland, Seattle and San Fran voters know what the rest of their states dont? I live east of the cascades and its like I'm in a whole different state. Its like a wave torn through the US from the East coast all across America and ended at the Cascades and Sierra Nevada. On a positive note I did read a study as of late from a San Diego school and Harvard reflecting liberal mindness is basically a social disorder of clingy people that need help from bigger gubbermint and cannot function self reliantly(liberals). Maybe this is the key in changing our metropolitan socialized cesspools that dictate state policies from their concrete jungle. I honestly feel more like a Idahoan than a Oregonian.
unka-boo, thanks for the warm welcoming accusation. I wouldnt think everyone on the coast uses drugs
I see, inversely, so the rest of America is insane for voting Democrats out and the GOP gaining 60 seats in congress. Ya, that settles it:nuts:. Dont get me wrong, I'm as cynical as most northwesterners, but it still doesnt answer why the rest of the country goes one way, while the far Left coast remains stuborn and loyal to one party.
Jim, I hope your right. Call me aweful, but I think some economical hurt is greatly deserved to those who remain so selfishly indulgent and materialistic like I see so apparent in cities like Portland, Seattle and San Fran, LA etc. Last month we took a venture over the cascades to the ocean and when we passed through Portland I can honestly say I never seen so many piggish folks. Figuratively and literally. Never seen so many anti-American and perverted bumperstickers on so many little foreign cars either. Reminded me of when I was stationed in Germany while serving in the Army as the folks looked like idealistic plump sheeple, shopping, dining, protesting and thinking they are so smart with their "progressive" ideals:woot: . I dont know how some of you good folks can reside over there. I shouldnt complain too much though as Oregon has been pretty good on gun rights Its just that liberal gene scientists have found that we need to do something about and get these folks to be a tad bit more self reliant and not dependant like children in adult bodies.
Jim, don't make me correct you again. Your 48% is actually less than 2%.
Economy Statistics > Welfare Caseloads > Total recipients (per capita) (most recent) by state
# 7 Alaska: 2.4 per 100 people (15,927)
# 10 Washington: 2.238 per 100 people (140,721)
# 36 Oregon: 1.197 per 100 people (43,591)
Plenty of red states ahead of Oregon in the welfare game.
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Welfare Caseloads total recipients (per capita) by state. Definition, graph and map.
I don't recall you ever being able to correct anyone Bending your numbers to include all people rather than just who votes is a typical way to put your spin on it. Plus a government check doesn't just cover welfare, it goes to government workers and their families along with all who do business with government.
Someone (I believe it was Einstein) said that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result/outcome was the very definition of insanity.Disagreeing with your politics is insane?
If you ask me (and you did, in a roundabout way), thinking someone is insane for voting democrat is insane. Nobody is going to make any progress until the vast majority begins to understand that the "other side" is not insane, they're the "other side" - and our neighbors.
If you honestly believe that Democrats in Congress don't bear primary culpability in the financial collapse, you haven't paid attention in the last 10 years. When Bush's team TRIED to convince Congress that Fannie and Freddie needed to be reigned in they were ignored, and painted once again as trying to deprive the needy.The economy is not in the tank due to the Democrats. That's a tea party pipe dream.
The economy is in the tank due to the financial regulations the Republicans refused to enact before the implosion.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing CrisisThere aren't too many genuine heroes to come out of the banking disaster, but Armando Falcon is one of them. You have probably never heard of him, but his testimony Friday before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, available on the commission's website, is must reading for anyone trying to figure out why U.S. taxpayers had to bail out companies to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.
Falcon was the chief regulator attempting to bring order to the houses of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac during the first four years of this decade, and had he been listened to, a significant part of the housing crisis could have been mitigated. Instead his agency was denied serious regulatory power by Democrats in Congress including liberals such as Reps. Barney Frank and Maxine Waters, both of whom assumed he was undermining public support for more affordable housing.
He wasn't, and instead was attempting to call attention to the reckless bundling of risky mortgages in which the government-chartered agencies acted like the other too-big-to-fail behemoths that together almost wrecked the entire economy.<snip>
That isn't the problem with Dems. Their problem is they have their priorities screwed up.The economy is in the tank because the Democrats aren't much better than the Republicans when it comes to fixing problems.
Your statement strongly parallels the leftist media machine that, for the last two years, has persisted that objections to Obama's agenda are race based. That notion is ludicrous at best, and I believe it has been addressed this week. The politicians that tried to convince the public at health care reform and cap & trade town halls didn't listen to their constituents.And what's wrong with women? You don't think women should be in a position of power? Are their minds too feeble? The OP seems to be implying this, but it could be misinterpretation on my part - the OP's writing rambles and is not entirely clear.
While you are doing your figures lol How many retired government workers? How many students brainwashed by public schools? (yes both groups are on the public dole) There are far too many people getting government money.
One point I will make is, Since the senate is still under the democrats the dems will get the blame for the 20% inflation about to hit.
jj
Notice how this is done right after the election and how Obama is spending 200 million a day on his trip to India. Liberalism is a mental dissorder. 34 warships and 40 aircraft for the trip to Mumbia on your dime. Democrat corruption.
Since the senate is still under the democrats the dems will get the blame for the 20% inflation about to hit. Add that 20% to what taxes your democrats are going to fug you with and your future is toast.
jj
20% inflation? Now you have a direct line to the future and know how much inflation we are going to have?
Obama is spending 200 million a day on his trip to India. Liberalism is a mental dissorder. 34 warships and 40 aircraft for the trip to Mumbia on your dime. Democrat corruption.jj
20% might a lowball figure in the next 5 years. The power lords have decided to monetize the debt with inflation. The thieves use fancy words like "quantitative easing" to fool saps like you.Read the news, Lord Bernanke just created $600 billion out of thin air.
20% inflation? Now you have a direct line to the future and know how much inflation we are going to have?
I got no faith in what you say because you have had the koolaide and you like it.
jj
Do you get all your info from chain mails Jim?
snopes.com: President Obama's Asian Trip - $200 Million per Day?