Demand is higher, nobody uses a 30-30 anymore.
Nobody? Like zero people?nobody uses a 30-30 anymore.
Why wait?If they cut off the autos in my time I would want one in .357 and at least one (if not more) in something larger.
I don't buy one yet because of price mainly. I do LOVE the look and feel of the levers. Auto's are my hands down favorite though. Levers would be my go to if I am still kicking when they take the auto's. I love PCC's for both fun and "just in case". A side loading lever would be a nice substitute if they take my auto's from me. The only reason they (levers) cost so much is not enough are made. If they started selling like the auto PCC's on the market it would not take long for several to tool up and start making them. Many here were not around when the AR took off. I well remember when there was basically one to choose from as a "base model". They cost about twice what a Mini 14 cost. Look at the AR market now. There is a reason the AR now can be had for half what a Mini cost. Even good AR's can be had for about 2/3ds of what a Mini runs. What I paid for my first one and the money I paid back then was a BIG chunk of change back then. In today's dollars I am not even sure what it would come out to but it would be shocking to many. As the manufacture of these took off the price just kept going down. When and if they do take the autos the lever's will become something many will jump in to start making.Why wait?
Don't think of a PC caliber (or something larger) lever action as an 'alternative' to your semi autos but think of it as something different, something new that you might actually enjoy shooting and reloading for.
It might give you a new respect and appreciation for shooting, maybe a bit of nostalgia and who knows? you might find yourself taking your lever action out quite often!
I don't know about this.Perhaps manufacturers are hesitant to make a cost-effective, high-production run on guns they're not absolutely positive will sell like Camaros and Taylor Swift.
If 'pew pew semi autos' are the measure of 'sexy' then yes. Lever action rifles are not sexy - they are mature and glamorus.True, lever guns are not "sexy" (as the brits might say) pew-pew-pew semi-autos
How much are you looking to spend? The Rossi stainless 357s were just over $500 last time I checked (but probably $200 more than 30-30 I don't know). Chiappa I think made some inexpensive ones also as I recall but can't remember how much. BTW, unrelated but one interesting/oddball lever gun is the Henry .308Ive always wanted a .357 lever rifle....... but even new, off the rack they are $200 more than the same rifle in 30-30
What is the driving force behind that?
357, 44, 45.... all are hundreds more than rifles in 30-30 for same finish, etc
Of course, on the used market its even more money. Value of used pc lever gun only goes up while a 30-30 gun goes down
I bought a Henry 22 in 2005. Didn't measure the trigger pull then and I haven't now. It's always been pretty crisp and everyone who's shot it did well. The 22 LR carbines are the only "pistol caliber" carbines I've seen at reasonable prices. Everything else does seem to have elevated pricing compared to a 30-30 with similar features.Just measured the new Henry 22 waiting for its first Range Trip.....6 successive lever cock & then trigger pull measurements averaged 1# 6.9 oz. Very smooth as well.
the 1894 with iron sights is the one I use most. I have a scope on the 336 and it works just fine to. I have a Rossi 44mag with a 16" barrel I take with me on the quad around on the ranch = short barrel fits through tight spaces better. and my 45-70 marlin 1895 SBL when I want to make big holes and my winchester model 1894-22 to make the small holesWhats your favorite?
I'm not likely to shoot 500 rounds of 30 WCF in one range session due to monetary constraints. The .357/.38 cal lever guns allow me to train and compete with a more moderate round at almost one-third of what it'd cost to do the same with .30 WCF.it's gonna take a while to save enough on ammo to make up the difference in purchase price between that and a pistol caliber version. I dont quite get it.
Rossi stainless in 357 is $500 wholesale. And MSRP of 695.How much are you looking to spend? The Rossi stainless 357s were just over $500 last time I checked (but probably $200 more than 30-30 I don't know). Chiappa I think made some inexpensive ones also as I recall but can't remember how much. BTW, unrelated but one interesting/oddball lever gun is the Henry .308