What Will Happen To Gun Rights If Obama Is Re-Elected?

[mrblond]

Then better don't work. The Government will take care of you :yes:

Hooray for gubment cheese!

 

[davemata]

Clear enough?

HAHAHA YOU COMPLAINED. HOW HILARIOUS.

 

[davemata]

So now that World Series game one is over.

Any new calls for an AWB? Also, I was wondering. Did we ever get that Sharia law that everyone who was afraid of BHO was crowing last election? What are the chances we'll get it when he's in for a second term, compared to Romnuts cramming Mormon law down on us?

Managing one wife is enough, I don't think I could handle more.

 

[gehrheart]

Managing one wife is enough, I don't think I could handle more.

.... I think that would be alright!
Put them to work, extra income to buy more guns

 

[Jamie6.5]

Thanks DMax.
Mr. Whittle channels my thoughts exactly in this video:

Every aspect of this election that Bill discusses in this video is right on as far as I'm concerned.

 

[gunnoob75]

Managing one wife is enough, I don't think I could handle more.

I don't think the mormon religion forces you to have more than one wife.

Pretty sure Sharia forces you to do all kinds of things.

 

[Misterbill]

You listen carefully locobob. What he says @2:40 mark, is that the MA AWB is an extension of the Assault Weapons Ban, meaning the federal assault weapons ban.
And, as clearly pointed out else where, was written and passed by the MA legislature in 1998, and signed into law by Romney's democrat governor predecessor.

here: Session Laws: CHAPTER 180 of the Acts of 1998 <--- Please note the date.

Then he explains that the bill he signed was a relaxation of that bill, endorsed by GOAL.

The part that got misrepresented by the press, and is often misunderstood by the public, is when he explains that the bill he signed brought the language of the original federal AWB over, and it was applied to the EXISTING MA AWB.
The MA AWB didn't have a provision or exemption to allow for semi autos or as an example, a tubular magazine for instance.
All the original MA AWB used for criteria was the round count a mag was capable of holding.

By using the federal AWB language, that and many other exemptions were applied to the MA AWB, and as a result, some 700 different firearms (by GOAL's count) were made legal again, after the 1998 law banned them.

Any other questions?

The guy asking the question, sounds almost as confused/misguided as some of the members here.
And by the way, I have posted this video on this forum myself.
I'd like to know why the original youtube labeled it the way he did, but he probably didn't understand either.

We keep saying it and you WON'T listen.

You keep citing the AMENDED statuted in Mass, and claiming GOAL supported the AWB.

You consistently ignore the at least two people here who VOTED FOR ROMNEY and who LIVED IN MASS AT THE TIME.

GOAL "supported" the festering pile of feces that is the current Mass nightmare as in it supported what got passed as LESS asteaming thab the pile of feces they were getting stuck with, largely because Romney never batted an eye at the gun control bill presented to him.

As bad as the current feces that is current Mass law is, it's marginally better than what was proposed and what Romney had from the time he ran for Governor, pledged to sign.

The ONLY reason it's slightly less stinking than it othrwise would have been was strident lobbying by GOAL.

If that's "supporting," then yes, I "support" me being orally raped instead of sodomized. It will hurt slightly less. Because that's exactly the level of "support" GOAL gave it at the time, and GOAL members ( I can show you my GD current paid-up dues-paying card) were mad as Hell that GOAL was as supportive in front of the press as it was. There has been a massive shakeup at GOAL over this and other iissues in the last year that you might want to pay attenytion to.

So you can listen to an organization that makes it's money by ginning up fear of the N*****R, or you can listen to the people who were there and involved in the fight. Sounds like you've made up your mind. But in fact, Romney has ALWAYS supported an AWB until it became a problem in the last couple of years. Now he's suddenly changeds his tune. the same way he did with abortion etc.

And yes, the AWB in Mass WAS slated to expire. We didn't expect the legislature to LET it expitre, but we didn't expect our newly elected Republican governor to side with our enemies.

Fool me once, etc.

 

[Jamie6.5]

We keep saying it and you WON'T listen.

You keep saying it, apparently, because YOU want to believe it.
But that doesn't make it true.

And yes, the AWB in Mass WAS slated to expire. We didn't expect the legislature to LET it expitre, but we didn't expect our newly elected Republican governor to side with our enemies.

I have linked the original, unamended MA AWB law more than once in this thread Misterbill, along with the amendments Romney signed.
Help yourself and your case and show us all where the original was slated to expire, and then please point out where Romney made it permanent.
It just isn't so.
The only AWB with an expiration date was the fed's.

Despite your claim, the "shaken up" leadership of GOAL has posted on their website, this year, the clarifying truth of the matter, and that what Romney signed relaxed restrictions, not added to them nor made them permanent.

Rant on about racism and fear and hatred all you want Misterbill, or show us all your "facts."
It's that simple.

 

[Dave Workman]

I'm going to have to disagree with your assessment. Obama had a good deal of positive momentum in the Democratic primaries - especially with minorities and young people. Romney on the other hand generated very little excitement among the Republican base until after the primaries were over and he became the party's nominee. I'll bet if we turned the clock back a year and took a poll on this website Romney would end up mid pack among the Republican candidates... at best.

And your point is?
This forum doesn't represent - alas - a cross-section of voters. Romney would be in there somewhere, presumably, but you are right, hardly a front-runner. But he emerged from the pack because more people voted for him in the primaries than voted for the other guys. That's democracy in action.

Pretty basic math and pretty basic politics.

I've actually met Romney, very briefly. He's not a monster, and I'm not certain he's comfortable with the meet-and-greet kind of thing a political candidate has to do. But he's got a better understanding of business and economic issues, I believe, than the incumbent.

 

[davemata]

I don't think the mormon religion forces you to have more than one wife.

Pretty sure Sharia forces you to do all kinds of things.

Also says I can't drink caffeine. Or alcohol. How long have we lived under Sharia law, wakejoe?
I do hope you see the point I'm making. People complained that Obama was going to implement Sharia law because he was a Kenyan muslim. Yet, those same canaries in the coal mine are mum on Mittens and mormon law. Considering Mittens is an elder in the church, it would be much more believable for him to try to cram a religion down our throats than for Obama to. Wonder why there isn't any tinfoil crowing.

 

[davemata]

We keep saying it and you WON'T listen.

That's why I put Jamie on ignore. This thread reads a lot better without all the bs. Can't get with reality, wants to sub it for some Rush Limbaugh sponsored fear emergency where everyone who isn't a Mitt lover is an Obama lover, without a single nod to reality.

And yes, the AWB in Mass WAS slated to expire. We didn't expect the legislature to LET it expitre, but we didn't expect our newly elected Republican governor to side with our enemies.

Lest anyone forget. The Republican governor of MA signed an extension to the AWB and screwed over a lot of good, well meaning and law fearing people. Yes, I said that right, law fearing.

 

[davemata]

And your point is?
This forum doesn't represent - alas - a cross-section of voters. Romney would be in there somewhere, presumably, but you are right, hardly a front-runner. But he emerged from the pack because more people voted for him in the primaries than voted for the other guys. That's democracy in action.

Pretty basic math and pretty basic politics.

I've actually met Romney, very briefly. He's not a monster, and I'm not certain he's comfortable with the meet-and-greet kind of thing a political candidate has to do. But he's got a better understanding of business and economic issues, I believe, than the incumbent.

How much of his front runner status was due to him being the pre-ordained choice of the establishment?

As for business and econ issues, that's for sure. He's well versed in buy, layoff, offshore, sell for profit. That's what Bain does.

 

[Jamie6.5]

Lest anyone forget. The Republican governor of MA signed an extension to the AWB and screwed over a lot of good, well meaning and law fearing people.

That must have happened somewhere in that fantasy world where Pelosi and Biden dwell.
Because it damn sure didn't happen where reality rules. The governor that signed MA's AWB bill was a democrat.

The permanent MA AWB was in place for years before the Mittster came along.
Thanks to the same people that elected T. Kennedy, and J. Kerry, and P. Tsongas and all of the rest of the gun banners the state is known for.
The very people that our supposedly former MA residents managed to keep re-electing, despite your current claims.

And now they are here to blame it all on Romney.
Gun hatred in MA is a home-grown problem, that you guys want to lay off on someone else.

 

[gehrheart]

How much of his front runner status was due to him being the pre-ordained choice of the establishment?

As for business and econ issues, that's for sure. He's well versed in buy, layoff, offshore, sell for profit. That's what Bain does.

A LOT! Working with many groups of people this last year on election there was for the most part a lot of "I dont really like him, but the party said I should so I am giving him my vote."
"the word from above is push for Romney this time.."

and like good little sheeple most followed right along... and so few of them would admit they actualy liked Romney! Even worse I thought was how many would tell me they liked Paul... but the party said Romney....

 

[gehrheart]

I really dont think Romney is going to go after guns..

Don't think he will lift a finger to help remove any of the BS laws we already have! I feel more secure with him in 2nd amendment then Obummer.
However.. I still think as a politician he is a steaming pile and anti liberty.. walking a thin line between the Right and Left..

Is that really the best the R. party can put forward?????

 

[davemata]

I really dont think Romney is going to go after guns..

Don't think he will lift a finger to help remove any of the BS laws we already have! I feel more secure with him in 2nd amendment then Obummer.
However.. I still think as a politician he is a steaming pile and anti liberty.. walking a thin line between the Right and Left..

Is that really the best the R. party can put forward?????

Ron Paul was the best the Goppies had. What did they do? Freezed him out. Why? My guess is that the GOP brass realized that with RP at the helm, they wouldn't have an easy to control puppet, which is what they wanted and got with Mittens. He's also very much in the pocket of big business, and I think that they realized RP would not be, or would be at a much lower rate.

As for the going after guns? I think he will. Why? He says he won't, and he always turns 180. Plus, he already has once. Which is once more than the sitting POTUS. The guy is also an elder in his church, and I don't like that because I don't want anyone pushing their religious beliefs upon me. He'll have access to the world's biggest bully pulpit to do so.

I have a feeling that a lot (not all) of the people who will vote Romney are doing it for the following reasons:
1. He's white.
2. He's the party line.
3. They're closet socialists.
4. They drank the Jonestown koolaid.

Either way, they got nothin' with him.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Gun rights may take a turn for the worse if O gets reelected.
They may not change at all (although who knows with an anti-gun lame duck)
One thing is for sure. They sure as heck won't improve under him.
Romney isn't a friend of gun owners either, but I don't want to take the chance with Obama. At least Romney would have reelection motivation NOT to step on the toes of gun owners.

I have a feeling that a lot (not all) of the people who voted for Barack in 2008 did it for the following reasons:
1. He's black
2. He's the party line
3. They are closet socialists

 

[Jamie6.5]

You missed one Drew.

Don't forget the:
4. Drank the Chicago Kool-Aide.
And I doubt the "closet" part. Far too many on the left wear the socialist badge proudly.

 

[davemata]

Gun rights may take a turn for the worse if O gets reelected.
They may not change at all (although who knows with an anti-gun lame duck)
One thing is for sure. They sure as heck won't improve under him.
Romney isn't a friend of gun owners either, but I don't want to take the chance with Obama. At least Romney would have reelection motivation NOT to step on the toes of gun owners.

I have a feeling that a lot (not all) of the people who voted for Barack in 2008 did it for the following reasons:
1. He's black
2. He's the party line
3. They are closet socialists

Vote Johnson.

 

[Bacchus]

I have a feeling that a lot (not all) of the people who voted for Barack in 2008 did it for the following reasons:
1. He's black
2. He's the party line
3. They are closet socialists

No. If they voted for Barry because he's black, then they're closet racists. And socialists.