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True....

But how is the third party option ever going to gain ground if people just ignore it as not being a viable option...?


it't just like the ladder you alwayw climeb you have to start at the bottom rung and work your way up to the top you can't throw someone in as prez till they spend some time for people to get to know them and let him/her vote present so they don't have a record to run against them.

darn that sounds kinda like someone but can't think of who.
 
No. If they voted for Barry because he's black, then they're closet racists. And socialists.

I voted for him because I thought he would be a good president.

I think Johnny McCain would be infinitely better than mittens too, so Obama it is again.

Registered Republicans please put a competent candidate out next time who doesn't flip flop twice a week and flat out lie about important issues.
 
Registered Republicans please put a competent candidate out next time who doesn't flip flop twice a week and flat out lie about important issues.
Dear Pot, meet my friend Kettle.

Yeah yeah I know, obama evolves. It's only Republicans that flip-flop. :nuts:

Lie about important issues?
Like taxpayer billions to unions and other donors?
Like dead Americans in Benghazi?
Like supplying arms to al-qaeda jihadists in Syria?
Like supplying guns to Mexican drug cartels?
:s0077:
 
We didn't put up Romney. We put up Ron Paul, who would have anhilated Obama.

The system cheated in the caucuses. I watched it with my own two eyes.

It's amazing to watch the effects of history being rewritten right before your eyes and see there's nothing that can change it. The media lies, and you not only believed it, but you are speaking the lie as if it's already in the history books.
 
We didn't put up Romney. We put up Ron Paul, who would have anhilated Obama.

The system cheated in the caucuses. I watched it with my own two eyes.

It's amazing to watch the effects of history being rewritten right before your eyes and see there's nothing that can change it. The media lies, and you not only believed it, but you are speaking the lie as if it's already in the history books.

Can you explain what you mean by this?
 
Can you explain what you mean by this?

I would say do a search on the 2-3 other threads where this discussion came up.

But the short story version is that a group of us took an active part in the delegate process and watched Ron Paul's supporters show up in utterly overwhelming numbers and saw closed door counts that didn't reflect the actual numbers, watched the media pretend he didn't even exist even though he had the popularity of a Kennedy everywhere he went.

We went to the classes to learn how to counter romneys campaigns underhanded efforts to shift the delegate election process in his favor. Watched the Romney supporters raise a stink when it failed, and watched the media claim it was Ron Paul's supporters that caused the trouble (little clue here, we all wore stickers and shirts for our teams so it was plainly obvious who's team was being unruly.)

The media was bought and paid for, the counts were rigged whenever they could get away with it. We stopped them with cameras for a while, then they "Outlawed" cameras at the delegate conventions.

I have friends from several states including Texas and Florida an the same thing happened everywhere. Ron Paul won, and was ignored.

Our votes didn't count.
 
Can you explain what you mean by this?

It's amusing to me to hear people who probably consider themselves Republicans demonstrating complete ignorance ignorant about inter-party politics.
These are people who have never attended any caucus, pco meeting, or convention, yet it is they who most people consider republicans.
 
It's amusing to me to hear people who probably consider themselves Republicans demonstrating complete ignorance ignorant about inter-party politics.
These are people who have never attended any caucus, pco meeting, or convention, yet it is they who most people consider republicans.

WOW This is why nobody likes or cares about 3rd party guys there arrogance is as bad as progressive elites.
 
I would say do a search on the 2-3 other threads where this discussion came up.

But the short story version is that a group of us took an active part in the delegate process and watched Ron Paul's supporters show up in utterly overwhelming numbers and saw closed door counts that didn't reflect the actual numbers, watched the media pretend he didn't even exist even though he had the popularity of a Kennedy everywhere he went.

We went to the classes to learn how to counter romneys campaigns underhanded efforts to shift the delegate election process in his favor. Watched the Romney supporters raise a stink when it failed, and watched the media claim it was Ron Paul's supporters that caused the trouble (little clue here, we all wore stickers and shirts for our teams so it was plainly obvious who's team was being unruly.)

The media was bought and paid for, the counts were rigged whenever they could get away with it. We stopped them with cameras for a while, then they "Outlawed" cameras at the delegate conventions.

I have friends from several states including Texas and Florida an the same thing happened everywhere. Ron Paul won, and was ignored.

Our votes didn't count.

THAT! watched it, heard it, felt it.... And most of America turned a blind eye. As the sheeple flipped on the boobtube and was force feed the swill of what they should think and feel.
The conventions were a sham..
Reince Priebus is a crook and broke the RNC rules, namely rule 12.
Romney the Liberal rebublacrate for Goldman Sacks was hand picked from the elite and they made sure he was it...

No this isnt sore looser syndrome. The facts are all around if anyone cared to look. Most wont, most dont care, and most will blindly follow the party no matter what crap they put forward..
What I went through and what I saw this election cycle.. Not sure I want to call myself a Reb. Im a PCO, and I hate my party!

I remember being a delegate at state and being told many times over by the Rhinos that I am Un-American.. That I am the problem with this county.. That I am not a true believer in the constitution?? all because I supported Ron Paul.

I watched as delegates for Romeny were seated to replace Paul delegates.
The corruption was bad and they didn't even try to hide it. Why would they when most people just nodded and followed along.. The Party said we should so we shall.. baaaa baaaaa. baaa.
 
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Sing it brother Gehrheart!

We all felt/feel that way.

It's clear that we won't get this country back by voting and taking an active role in politics.

Something needs to be done to stop this madness. Stop the wars for profit. Stop banks and corporations from running our government.

What does it take to change it?

Is it boycotts? Demonstrations? Sanctions? Organized walk-outs? Will we be forced to actually fight for it? If it came to that, we definitely aren't the same Nation our forefathers bled for.
 
I might add, a vote for Romney validates the jack booted actions at the RNC.

RP should have been their nominee, but the establishment wanted a good puppet in Romney, so they locked RP out.

Done and done.

So there it is, "Vote Romney," and validate those actions like a good subject.

Patriots will vote otherwise.
 
WOW This is why nobody likes or cares about 3rd party guys there arrogance is as bad as progressive elites.

Progressive elites?! I was just pointing out that you seemed to know nothing about the nomination process of what you probably claim to be your own party.
 
Progressive elites?! I was just pointing out that you seemed to know nothing about the nomination process of what you probably claim to be your own party.

Your premise is so far off and without really knowing your arrogance to attack the messager is more like progressives than anything else. If you are the face of the 3rd party revolution nobody would take you seriously. I asked that question to make sure I was understanding what he was trying to communicate. The question was not even directed or even about you except in your mind.
 
Lie about important issues?
Like taxpayer billions to unions and other donors?
Like dead Americans in Benghazi?
Like supplying arms to al-qaeda jihadists in Syria?
Like supplying guns to Mexican drug cartels?

You forgot about Libya.
 
Found this on another web site. It’s a quotation from a recent issue of American Rifleman

The Obama Record on Run Rights

Obama appointed two anti-gun Supreme Court justices.

Obama wants to reimpose the failed and discredited gun ban on millions of common rifles, pistols and shotguns.

Obama’s State Department reversed US. policy and participated in negotiations on a U.N. anti-gun treaty.

Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sports shooting.

Obama voted for a ban on standard-capacity magazines.

Obama voted to uphold criminal prosecutions of people who use firearms in self-defense.

Obama endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.

Obama opposed all Right-to-Casrry laws.

Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”

Worst president since Carter.
 
I voted for him because I thought he would be a good president.

I think Johnny McCain would be infinitely better than mittens too, so Obama it is again.

Registered Republicans please put a competent candidate out next time who doesn't flip flop twice a week and flat out lie about important issues.

If you're waiting for ANY politico to not lie about important issues, you should probably do the country a favor and keep your ballot, then hold your breath until that particular super-duper individual shows up.
 
I might add, a vote for Romney validates the jack booted actions at the RNC.

RP should have been their nominee, but the establishment wanted a good puppet in Romney, so they locked RP out.

Done and done.

I am not much into poitics but did notice this. Why do you reckon RP didn't raise a ruckus at this happening? Serious question - not a troll, as I couldn't understand why he didn't mobilize folks, call presss conferences, write a blog or whatever.
 
I am not much into poitics but did notice this. Why do you reckon RP didn't raise a ruckus at this happening? Serious question - not a troll, as I couldn't understand why he didn't mobilize folks, call presss conferences, write a blog or whatever.

From what I saw, in limited news coverage, he did. Arrests for trespassing were offered. I could be wrong though.
 
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