I'm thinking squib roundFrom the muzzle - what's it look like? Can you see (or feel) an obstruction (duh) but how far down?
You say you missed (your target?) with shot 59... And this was shot 60... are you sure 59 left the barrel?
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I'm thinking squib roundFrom the muzzle - what's it look like? Can you see (or feel) an obstruction (duh) but how far down?
You say you missed (your target?) with shot 59... And this was shot 60... are you sure 59 left the barrel?
That was my first thought.Looking through my brass piles, my own reloads and range pickups, I would say the amount of soot on the case head is weird too. As if gas was leaking. I don't have a shield so maybe that's normal, but these cases look amazingly filthy. In the picture I quoted above, only the upper left and the one I quoted with the red box look like the right amount of soot to me.
Its a little off topic, but I didn't see an answer to this and I'm wondering the same question. Would it be normal for an ammo manufacturer to use purchased brass from another manufacturer?Stamp from the cases said "WIN". Is it normal for no-name manufacturers to use major name brand cases?
I did that, but it's taking a while to show up there.In addition, I'd be posting pictures and a review of the ammo on the CTD website, good way to warn others to beware.
It probably has to be "approved". Great way to save face....I did that, but it's taking a while to show up there.
Especially from sites like "Dirtier than cheap".its good to know not to buy ammo from unknown manufacturers.
Thank lawyers, regulation and safety standards. A free market would sort it out, but not without the cost of a few fingers, eyes and hands.When you think about it, our interest/hobby involves running many thousands of miniature explosions thru fairly cheaply produced consumer products. It's amazing incidents like this don't happen more often.
its normal especially for startup companies that cant afford their own headstamp. This can be anything from a garage operation to a quality boutique manufacturer like Doubletapp.Its a little off topic, but I didn't see an answer to this and I'm wondering the same question. Would it be normal for an ammo manufacturer to use purchased brass from another manufacturer?
Squib, Live round and boom...
A lot of commercial re-loaders use the Dillons and remove the powder check buzzer because it's annoying as fock....
And this is what happens.
At least you don't have to go for a car ride and do the old eye for and eye thing with finger's.
But it could be fun to show up at the MFG of the ammo and beat azz with the left over gun ??
How about a digital scale and start weighing the entire cartridge.Pending lack of response where sought, I'd be tempted to pull a goodly amount of slugs and weigh powders to see if I could find inconsistencies in the ammo manufacture. Time consuming for sure.
That is a great solution to an otherwise laborious suggestion!!!How about a digital scale and start weighing the entire cartridge.
An outlier should be spotted that way without breaking down the cartridges.
With pistol loads depending on the cartridge / load especially with mixed brass you can't always tell especially if running something like Bullseye.How about a digital scale and start weighing the entire cartridge.
An outlier should be spotted that way without breaking down the cartridges.
Yes, small powder charge.With pistol loads depending on the cartridge / load especially with mixed brass you can't always tell especially if running something like Bullseye.
As this was a M&P Shield the hammer did not strike the firing pin as there is no hammer, it's striker fired.So I haven't heard from S&W but the ammo manufacturer did reach out to me. We had a good conversation and one theory is that the round wasn't fully in the battery when it went off, which is why it blew down the feed ramp. So if it wasn't all the way in, why was the firing pin able to strike the primer? More like why was the hammer able to hit the pin?
I'll say it was a good conversation and we'll see where things go from here.
In my opinion the ammo manufacture is throwing a Hail Mary blaming the gun.
Same with both of mine. Both gen 1. 1 standard and 1 ported.That is always the go-to move in these cases. Point fingers at the other guy.
I have a 2.0 Shield in my truck. I'll have to check to see if I can get it to (dry) fire out of battery.
P.S. after trying.........Nope.
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Sounds like some crazy powder?Interesting consensus opinion on the main failure, but what are plausible explanations for the golden flecks and golden dust in the original post?
OP said rounds were dirty. I wonder if part of this dirt is brass dust? U reloaders would know about that probably but to me it seems like it may be one and the same thing. Poor manufacturing/dirty rounds with part of the dirt/debris being brass dust. If there any common source of brass dust when reloading that might explain it?Sounds like some crazy powder?
I'd for sure pull one to see if it hadn't degraded into something nutso.