Washington/Oregon poaching ring...

[rawkexpress]

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

 

[bsa1917hunter]

Work?? What is this "work" you speak of??

That's something some of us have to do for a living... Some of us may get off easier than others....

 

[Lilhigbee]

That's something some of us have to do for a living... Some of us may get off easier than others....

Says the man who was going to take up squaw-fishing for a living.

 

[bsa1917hunter]

Says the man who was going to take up squaw-fishing for a living.

That was only what I told my wife, so I could buy a nice aluminum boat...

 

[YOURSUPREMECOMMANDER]

Amputate the trigger finger!

 

[awshoot]

Thats the entire problem.. the " book " is often little more then a wrist slap. I mean they may lose their hunting rights but I doubt poachers bother with that to begin with.

Let us hope they do throw the book -- it isn't extreme but it ain't nothing either:

The crime is a Class C felony: RCW 77.15.410: Unlawful hunting of big game—Penalty.
And Class C felonies can carry up to 5 years in the slammer and/or a $10,000 fine: RCW 9A.20.021: Maximum sentences for crimes committed July 1, 1984, and after.

edit: Trial is scheduled for 1-8-18 for at least two of them (the Dills) and 12-11-17 for Haynes.
notes so I can follow this better: Odyssey Portal - Washington Courts Online Case Search
17-1-00053-30 | STATE OF WASHINGTON vs EDDY ALVIN DILLS
17-1-00055-30 | STATE OF WASHINGTON vs JOSEPH ALLEN DILLS
17-1-00050-30 | STATE OF WASHINGTON vs William J Haynes

 

[jsparks747]

Amputate the trigger finger!

I can shoot with both my pointer finger and my middle finger so how about that?!?!

 

[Lilhigbee]

I can shoot with both my booger hook and my traffic signaling finger so how about that?!?!

FIFY!!

 

[IOM]

It started when state officials wanted answers about the headless deer turning up in the Oregon wilderness east of Mount Hood.

"Nearly every year, it seems we have deer showing up minus their heads at the end of seasons," Craig Gunderson, a senior trooper with the Oregon State Patrol, recently explained to the Seattle Times. Authorities believed the mutilated animals might be the work of poachers, so in November 2016 they fixed motion-triggered cameras in the national forest near The Dalles, Oregon, smack on the Washington state line.

The footage troopers caught would prove to be the first clue to uncovering what officials now say was a loosely-linked poaching ring responsible for the illegal brutal slaughter of hundreds of animals in Washington and Oregon. The sheer size of the animal body count involved has shocked wildlife officials, in part because of the wantonness driving the rampant killing.

"It was kind of a demented social club," an Oregon official told the Times.

"I consider it a killing spree," a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife chief told Fox 12. "I'm completely disgusted."

"It's one of the biggest cases, if not the biggest case I've been involved with, and Washington has the same stance, based on the number of people involved and the number of illegally taken animals," Oregon State Police Fish and Wildlife Division Lieutenant Tim Schwartz explained to KOIN 6.

In the end, it was not just the camera footage from the forest that helped investigators unravel the ring, but the pictures and videos saved on the suspects' own cellphones. According to the Times, investigators found dozens of images detailing the poachers work, including videos of pack dogs running down and gnawing on bears, the poaches posing with the dead carcasses of elk, and even the hunter's splattered in the blood of recent kills. Between the two states, 17 people have been charged with more than 200 misdemeanors and felonies. None of the accused have publicly commented on the charges.

"Most people, when they kill an animal, there's respect for everything. They take the hide, they take the meat and there's something that's respectful about it," Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Captain Jeff Wickersham explained to FOX 12. "In this case, it's all about the thrill. They're going out there and killing to kill."

Back in November 2016, the motion-triggered cameras did catch poachers in the act, the Seattle Times reported. Images showed individuals in a Toyota truck in the national forest throwing a spotlight into the wilderness - an illegal hunting tactic known as "spotlighting," or finding animals in the dark by catching their eye glow in flash of light.

When wilderness officials went to the spot where the truck had been caught on camera, they discovered another headless deer.

On Dec. 3, Oregon troopers spotted the truck and pulled it over. The two men inside - William J. Haynes and Erik C. Martin - admitted to killing two bucks and taking the heads back to Washington, the Times reported. When authorities searched Haynes's home, they found a freshly-cut deer head in the garage and 12 additional heads in the backyard, some in plastic bags, some rotting with maggots. In total, officials confiscated 27 deer heads from the property, according to the paper.

Evidence on the suspects' phone would point investigators to at least 20 kill sites in the wilderness where illegal pouching had taken place. Text messages showed the poachers had planned out their illegal hunts and revealed in the opportunity.

"You ready to kill everything?!" one alleged poached texted another in November 2015, according to investigators.

"[W]ell duh!," another responded. "I'm a little trigger happy lol."

Authorities say the poaching crews often conducted their hunts in the middle of the day, with lookouts posted for authorities. "They all knew what they were doing was illegal," Oregon trooper Craig Gunderson told the Times. "They all thought it out ahead of time and had plans. Some of them had been doing it for years."

Haynes and Martin were among the 11 defendants charged this week in Wasco County, Ore. with misdemeanors related to the poaching, according to KOIN 6. They have yet to enter a plea in the case and it is unclear if they have attorneys. Charges related to the ring have also been filed in Washington counties. So far, two of the 17 defendants have pleaded guilty to hunting-related violations, the Times reported.

But investigators also admit to being stumped by the bloodshed.

"For some, it was about ego and bravado - who could kill the biggest, the most," Gunderson said to the Times.

"This particular violation really lays down the foundation that it was people killing animals to kill animals," Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife's Wickersham told KOIN 6. "There was really no other motive behind it other than these individuals wanted to kill."

 

[SA Shooter]

hmmm...maybe someone should stuff their severed heads in a plastic bag...

 

[Jonnyuma]

But investigators also admit to being stumped by the bloodshed.

Yeah... me too.
I read all the way through to get to the "why" that never came.
Sociopathic sadists would be my best unqualified guess.

 

[Mark W.]

Tattoo "baby rapist" on their foreheads and throw them in general population then go have a long coffee break. I hate poachers with a passion. Its always been so hard to harvest a deer that the idea my chances are reduced by some A hole like this drives me crazy.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

@$$#0!3$

 

[Argonaut]

Sounds like time to reintroduce bounty hunting laws. Put 5,000 on there head and some old guy with time will find them.

 

[308]

No doubt they will have their hunting privileges revoked for 3-years and have to perform 80hrs of community service

 

[IOM]

Sounds like time to reintroduce bounty hunting laws. Put 5,000 on there head and some old guy with time will find them.

In a heartbeat for $5K... I can track and spent most of my life in the woods...

 

[SUPER X]

It started when state officials wanted answers about the headless deer turning up in the Oregon wilderness east of Mount Hood.

"Nearly every year, it seems we have deer showing up minus their heads at the end of seasons," Craig Gunderson, a senior trooper with the Oregon State Patrol, recently explained to the Seattle Times. Authorities believed the mutilated animals might be the work of poachers, so in November 2016 they fixed motion-triggered cameras in the national forest near The Dalles, Oregon, smack on the Washington state line.

The footage troopers caught would prove to be the first clue to uncovering what officials now say was a loosely-linked poaching ring responsible for the illegal brutal slaughter of hundreds of animals in Washington and Oregon. The sheer size of the animal body count involved has shocked wildlife officials, in part because of the wantonness driving the rampant killing.

"It was kind of a demented social club," an Oregon official told the Times.

"I consider it a killing spree," a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife chief told Fox 12. "I'm completely disgusted."

"It's one of the biggest cases, if not the biggest case I've been involved with, and Washington has the same stance, based on the number of people involved and the number of illegally taken animals," Oregon State Police Fish and Wildlife Division Lieutenant Tim Schwartz explained to KOIN 6.

In the end, it was not just the camera footage from the forest that helped investigators unravel the ring, but the pictures and videos saved on the suspects' own cellphones. According to the Times, investigators found dozens of images detailing the poachers work, including videos of pack dogs running down and gnawing on bears, the poaches posing with the dead carcasses of elk, and even the hunter's splattered in the blood of recent kills. Between the two states, 17 people have been charged with more than 200 misdemeanors and felonies. None of the accused have publicly commented on the charges.

"Most people, when they kill an animal, there's respect for everything. They take the hide, they take the meat and there's something that's respectful about it," Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Captain Jeff Wickersham explained to FOX 12. "In this case, it's all about the thrill. They're going out there and killing to kill."

Back in November 2016, the motion-triggered cameras did catch poachers in the act, the Seattle Times reported. Images showed individuals in a Toyota truck in the national forest throwing a spotlight into the wilderness - an illegal hunting tactic known as "spotlighting," or finding animals in the dark by catching their eye glow in flash of light.

When wilderness officials went to the spot where the truck had been caught on camera, they discovered another headless deer.

On Dec. 3, Oregon troopers spotted the truck and pulled it over. The two men inside - William J. Haynes and Erik C. Martin - admitted to killing two bucks and taking the heads back to Washington, the Times reported. When authorities searched Haynes's home, they found a freshly-cut deer head in the garage and 12 additional heads in the backyard, some in plastic bags, some rotting with maggots. In total, officials confiscated 27 deer heads from the property, according to the paper.

Evidence on the suspects' phone would point investigators to at least 20 kill sites in the wilderness where illegal pouching had taken place. Text messages showed the poachers had planned out their illegal hunts and revealed in the opportunity.

"You ready to kill everything?!" one alleged poached texted another in November 2015, according to investigators.

"[W]ell duh!," another responded. "I'm a little trigger happy lol."

Authorities say the poaching crews often conducted their hunts in the middle of the day, with lookouts posted for authorities. "They all knew what they were doing was illegal," Oregon trooper Craig Gunderson told the Times. "They all thought it out ahead of time and had plans. Some of them had been doing it for years."

Haynes and Martin were among the 11 defendants charged this week in Wasco County, Ore. with misdemeanors related to the poaching, according to KOIN 6. They have yet to enter a plea in the case and it is unclear if they have attorneys. Charges related to the ring have also been filed in Washington counties. So far, two of the 17 defendants have pleaded guilty to hunting-related violations, the Times reported.

But investigators also admit to being stumped by the bloodshed.

"For some, it was about ego and bravado - who could kill the biggest, the most," Gunderson said to the Times.

"This particular violation really lays down the foundation that it was people killing animals to kill animals," Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife's Wickersham told KOIN 6. "There was really no other motive behind it other than these individuals wanted to kill."

Might have graduated to people eventually

 

[Mister Bisley]

The Most Dangerous Game comes to mind

 

[JRuby]

No doubt they will have their hunting privileges revoked for 3-years and have to perform 80hrs of community service

They don't need hunting privledges as they weren't obeying the law. The laws mean nothing to them. You must inflict severe financial impact or physical injury before they will stop this behavior. Let's make examples out of these poachers as an example to future poachers.
An individual who harvests a deer to feed thier family in time of need is vastly different than what these poachers did.

 

[po18guy]

Almost sounds like an occult group.

They should be tried by the Nuge.