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I'd be interested to read why you think that.Based on the Supreme Court Bruen decision, you can just hand it to him. It's what I'm doing nowadays.
Because it's an emotional response, not a practical one.I'd be interested to read why you think that.
The 'adjoining state' thing went away in 1986, with the Firearms Owners Protective Act. Current law for long guns is any state, provided the transaction satisfies the laws of the states of residence of the buyer and seller, and the state where the FFL is. That is, a UT seller might sell to a WY buyer at an FFL in ID - have to make all 3 states happy.Because it's an emotional response, not a practical one.
For the legal transfer, the buyers state laws apply. Sine it's a long gun and in a neighboring state of they buyer, he's legally able to purchase it, but has to obey the laws of the state he resides in.
I'd like to see the history & precedent of banning interstate personal transfer. That's the judicial standard now. 18 USC 922 cannot stand with that. While congress can regulate interstate commerce, they can't ban civil rights based on their interstate exercise. It's a new world.Bruen did not invalidate 18 USC 922; interstate transfer - based on the states of residence of the parties - requires using an FFL. That has been the law since 1968. Violation could get both parties a 5-year stretch in prison and/or a $10K fine.
Just looked it up, you're right! Thanks for the education.The 'adjoining state' thing went away in 1986, with the Firearms Owners Protective Act. Current law for long guns is any state, provided the transaction satisfies the laws of the states of residence of the buyer and seller, and the state where the FFL is. That is, a UT seller might sell to a WY buyer at an FFL in ID - have to make all 3 states happy.
Well, it has never made any sense to me, but for it to go away will take a Federal lawsuit challenging the law.I'd like to see the history & precedent of banning interstate personal transfer. That's the judicial standard now. 18 USC 922 cannot stand with that. While congress can regulate interstate commerce, they can't ban civil rights based on their interstate exercise. It's a new world.
So for now for an OR resident to buy that shotgun would be problematic as in they would not know when they'd be able to take possession of it? Is that fairly accurate?The 'adjoining state' thing went away in 1986, with the Firearms Owners Protective Act. Current law for long guns is any state, provided the transaction satisfies the laws of the states of residence of the buyer and seller, and the state where the FFL is. That is, a UT seller might sell to a WY buyer at an FFL in ID - have to make all 3 states happy.
With the upcoming PTP, looks like cannot satisfy OR law at an FFL outside OR; similarly, CA buyers cannot complete such transactions out of CA because cannot satisfy CA law.
Of course, what the law requires and what people may actually do has been known to diverge a little. Know your risks, do what you think is best for you.
That, but more urgently, a non-OR FFL will be wondering what pile of poo he might step in while the 114 dreck is litigated.Thanks
So for now for an OR resident to buy that shotgun would be problematic as in they would not know when they'd be able to take possession of it? Is that fairly accurate?
Even semiautomatic shotguns are not subject to WA's I-1639 process.From what i can gather before PTP is the law in oregon. A transaction could be completed in Washington for a oregon buyer given its not a pistol (pistol's all most always require home state transfer unless military with orders), and not semiautomatic long gun or shot gun.
This, as of right now, while M114 is in limbo.From what i can gather before PTP is the law in oregon. A transaction could be completed in Washington for a oregon buyer given its not a pistol (pistol's all most always require home state transfer unless military with orders), and not semiautomatic long gun or shot gun.
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