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U.S. Attorney General Bans Local Police From Seizing Assets Under Federal Law

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by IheartSig, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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  2. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Here is the Washington Post (not a conservative publication):
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...7ca058-99d4-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html

    Some seizures will still continue - such has illegal firearms.

    "Since 2008, thousands of local and state police agencies have made more than 55,000 seizures of cash and property worth $3 billion under a civil asset forfeiture program at the Justice Department called Equitable Sharing."

    "Holder’s decision allows some limited exceptions, including illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives and property associated with child pornography, a small fraction of the total. This would eliminate virtually all cash and vehicle seizures made by local and state police from the program."


    I still can't believe this is coming from Holder.

    The way I read it, when the FEDs do it, they will keep it, it just stops the locals.
     
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  3. WasrNwarpaint

    WasrNwarpaint Portland Well-Known Member

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    including illegal firearms, ammunition, explosives

    illegal ammo?...ya figures the gun grabbing was left in there
     
  4. Freakshow

    Freakshow Tualatin Member

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    From the article:

    "While police can continue to make seizures under their own state laws, "


    Better than nothing, but still not enough.
     
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  5. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    What are the Oregon statutes in this area? Anybody know where to look?
     
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  6. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    According this Willamette Week article 1.9 million since 2001. It doesn't go out and say it but it sounds like they are taking advantage of the federal sharing that Holder has stopped, but this story lacks needed definition.

    http://www.wweek.com/portland/mobile/blogs/blogView/id:32135
     
  7. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Why not just repeal the law?
     
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  8. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I actually meant to type "statute", not "state".
     
  9. WasrNwarpaint

    WasrNwarpaint Portland Well-Known Member

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    Why not just repeal the law?

    Please & cut off the cash cow....

    Law enforcement has become the publics number one enemy, revenue generators & tax collectors...beat em, shoot em, jail em, kill em, no matter...... just take their money....so much for PEACE OFFICERS!

    this Holder crap is just NOISE so you think your govt is after your best interests (when actually they are after your money) as a country we are already bankrupt from these crooks lining their pockets
    He says the feds can still snatch your cash & so can the states that have these laws...... well whats that mean....NOTHING individual states can still snatch your cash, whatever states dont have these laws already in place , will get them in place as cash runs out and they see other states raking it in still
     
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    WasrNwarpaint Portland Well-Known Member

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    Your govt reports crime is down and has been on this trend YET THE GOVT SEIZURES ARE WAY UP EVERY YEAR SINCE 2000

    thieves and crooks who are they? cant tell any more....oh ya you can, the poor & broke citizens trying to get by are the crooks these days....they admit it crimes down seizures up you tell me who the crooks are
     
  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The "law" is a basic common law principle that has been around for millennia and is somewhat built into the constitution. So it isn't quite so easy to repeal (no law is easy to repeal).

    Google "in rem" and "civil forfeiture". In US law these principles and laws have been there from the beginning.

    It really picked up under Reagan and has been increasing exponentially since.

    This is a really good thing. It is surprising the feds are doing this.
     
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    Provincial Near Salem, OR Well-Known Member

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    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    My heart bleeds for the "authorities" :rolleyes:

    One of the main reasons I got out of the USCG was because they went from an org whose primary mission was search & rescue to one whose primary mission was drug law enforcement. This escalated with Reagan and the so-called "war on drugs".

    The commissioned officers and up saw this as a chance to go from an org that had WWII hand me down equipment, a small budget and manpower that was smaller than the NYPD, to a real federal LE agency with all the budget and manpower they could handle.

    Now they have state of the art equipment, a large budget, and they get to play cops and robbers.

    They are also now under DHS.

    I am glad I did not re-enlist, it turned out just the way I thought it would.
     
  16. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    "I still can't believe this is coming from Holder.

    The way I read it, when the FEDs do it, they will keep it, it just stops the locals.[/QUOTE]"

    But of course the feds hate competition
     
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  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    number 2 IRS has them beat
     
  18. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The feds often got a share of what the locals confiscated from what I understand, so it was more of a partnership than a competition. Maybe they decided they didn't want to share anymore. Not sure exactly why.