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Tuesday night in Corrales, NM. The citizens stormed City Hall. A valuable lesson.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Pauly, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Pauly

    Pauly N. Portland Active Member

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    A link to video of the Village Council meeting follows it's 2 parts

    Corrales City Council Gun Ban Part I | United States | By Pmorlen

    And Part 2
    Corrales City Council MTG to Ban Open Carry in Coralles Part II | United States | By Pmorlen

    We could learn from Corrales.
    They were lucky that a news station mentioned it, otherwise it would have likely been passed in the darkness.

    Non Governmental Organizations such as IANSA and other highly funded global groups are increasingly influencing law, not by attacking on the federal level, but by manipulating local governments.
    If they sneak laws in enough large cities, the laws spread to the towns, then the nation. They're boiling a frog.

    To be proactive, some steps could increase our strength to be unbeatable.

    A "2A-threats" section, or moreover an "URGENT 2A threats" section with regional subsections, for those of us who watch our local government to post alerts would be the first step.

    The second step could utilize new technology of Mass-Texting programs.
    I've been studying the political phenomenon of Occupy in Portland closely. That's one of their main tools of coordination.
    People sign up for text alerts by texting a code to a number, and they can coordinate multiple actions across whole cities.
    If a few frequently active forum members who owned smart-phones were to act as regional hubs and back-up regional hubs, whole cities, counties, or states could be alerted of imminent 2A threats instantly.

    Within a very short time after the alert, mass blocks of voting citizens with honed 2A arguments could converge on city counsels & other local government and force their hands, letting them know that nothing they do in dark rooms goes unnoticed.
  2. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Thank goodness for State pre-emption for CHL holders in Oregon. They'd have a harder time trying to do this under cover of darkness at the state level. I hope.
  3. JackThompson

    JackThompson Valley of the Demons Well-Known Member

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    Nice victory Corrales! /Facebooked!
  4. Pauly

    Pauly N. Portland Active Member

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    Unfortunately, they already did do it in Oregon. That was an Open carry ban, like we have in Portland & a few other cities.
    It's one of those things that doesn't effect a person day to day, but then when a person without a CHL really should carry, like your wife calls you to get a ride home when a riot or whatever happens, then it's unlawful for people to carry.
    They were trying to pass it as a "resolution" which technically isn't enforceable, but first off, we all likely know arguing law with an officer on the side of the rode is rather futile, and anyhow they'd get you for "restricted activities" or something similar. End result, the unlawful law would still be enforced.

    I feel Localities, Governors, & even presidents are getting just a little too comfortable ruling by decree in the dark of the night lately.
  5. GreginWA

    GreginWA Enumclaw, WA Member

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    TY for sharing.

    EDIT: Please share original link, for time reference and further sharing, as I think you have to be a member here to access links. Would like to email.
  6. Pauly

    Pauly N. Portland Active Member

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    The Back-Story came from Mike Rodgers of Lone Star Arms & was posted in the private business member-only subforum over on the Saiga-12 forum where I do business.
    Robert Wright of R&R targets is probably the only other member here that can access the source-post.

    It seems to check out though.
    The two videos linked were live-streamed this last Tuesday Night. I watched both, and it seems all is in order with the back story...
    As we can see in the first video the first thing the Mayor did was call the Fire chief in, in hopes
    he could get the chief to say there were too many people so they could close the meeting down, but the Fire Chief wasn't buying it.

    This onslaught on our gun rights is expected though.
    small groups of "Non Governmental Organizations" which are just a front for international organizations which file EPA lawsuits, privately influence local government to influence resource rights laws & trick people with conservation easements to take people's property rights under the names of "Sustainability" "Smart growth" & "Precautionary Principle"... The last equates to some hippie having an idea of something that might make sense in a pipe dream, then having it enforced as environmental policy as a "Precaution".

    Like; "A spotted owl mightnot like to hear chainsaws, so let's kill an industry, therefore a few small towns"

    Or; "Your farms using water for irrigation might effect a fish, so looks like your Northern California City will have to die, because we're shutting off your water."

    And of course; "Pesticides from your farm in Washington might effect water somewhere along the path to the ocean, so you can't farm your land within 500' from the irrigation ditches (waterways), so you lose 60% of the state's farm land."

    Well, we just embarassed the Obama by pressuring him so much that he had to postpone the UN Small Arms Treaty, so we can expect the same tricks as above now when it comes to our Second Amendment rights.
    We just must remember that our rights are Unalienable, meaning inherent. We couldn't even give them away if we wanted to.
    They're not Inalienable, like people in the media keep saying, which means, given by the Government, who, in that case, could take them away...
    So much weight, in 1 single letter... :/
  7. fred c. dobbs

    fred c. dobbs salem Active Member

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    There is no greater fool then one who believes he or she has any RIGHTS or FREEDOM, Just look at what is Happening in Lincoln County, to Gerald Conrady. The term a free country originaly ment free from taxs, property , Income, travel, free from control, you may own it , who controls it is the question, ETC.ETC.ETC. , that is all gone, wake up all of you, your money, currency is being debased in front of your eyes, do you have any idea what that means, taking away your guns is just a small piece of the puzzle of TOTALLITARIANISM, Total Control, its on its way. FACISIM , COMMUNISIM, SOCIALISIM, 1. All men are more easily inclined towards evil than good.
    2. Preach Liberalism
    3. Use the idea of freedom to bring about class wars
    4. Any and all means should be used to reach the Illuminati Goals as they are justified.
    5. The right to lie in force.
    6. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment it has gained the strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
    7. Avocation of mob psychology to control the masses.
    8. Use alcohol, drugs, corruption and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.
    9. Seize property by any means
    10. Use of slogans such as equity, liberty, fraternity delivered into the mouths of the masses in psychological warfare
    11. War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences conducted so that neither combatant obtains territory rights.
    12. Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen and placed in public office who will be obedient to their demands and will be used as pawns in the game by those behind the scenes. Their advisors will have been reared and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.
    13. Control the press.
    14. Agents will come forward after fermenting traumatic situations and appear to be the saviors of the masses.
    15. Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food and use this to control the masses or mob and then use the mob to wipe out all those who stand in the way.
    16. Infiltrate into the secret Freemasons to use them for Illuminati purposes.
    17. Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases and advocate lavish promises to the masses even though they cannot be kept.
    18. Detail plans for resolutions, discuss the art of street fighting which is necessary to bring the population into speedy subjection.
    19. Use agents as advisors behind the scenes after wars and use secret diplomacy to gain control.
    20. Establish huge monopolies that lean toward world government control.
    21. Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by control of raw materials. Organize agitation among the workers and subsidize their competitors.
    22. Build up armaments with Police forces and Soldiers sufficient to protect our needs.
    23. Members and leaders of the one world government would be appointed by the directors.
    24. Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing and corrupting the youthful members of society by teaching them theories and principles that we know to be false.
    25. National and International laws should be used to destroy civilization and enslave and control the people.
  8. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    You know what, this is exactly the kind of use of technology that I have been advocating increasingly over the last few years. I look at what successes leftist insurrectionist movements have had and try to find ways of applying them to my particular political bent...

    One of the seminal works involving this is the Rand publication "Networks and Netwars" specifically "Netwar in the Emerald City" about the 1999 WTO riots...


    If you havn't read it already... I highly recommend it.
  9. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    As bad as it sounds (Techno-geeky) a text alert would work best for me. I travel around a lot due to my job.. I'm in state but all over throughout the day. If NWFA or OFF sent a critical alert or vital meeting via text I'd do my best to show up if/when and where needed.
  10. mosinguy

    mosinguy by the ocean Member

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    i too like the text message idea the only thing that bothers me would be the fact that our cell phone numbers would be in a place where they could all be found in a type of community they would be targeting and even if the names werent attached to the numbers a reverse trace of the number and game over and yes there are ways around it i know but i for one cant afford to buy another cell phone
  11. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Your phone has an email based on the number where anything sent to it will be texted to your phone. Look it up at the carrier. You might also be able set up rules to forward emails to that address depending on your email service. Of course, an OFF email might be more than 10 texts.