National Trump on Gun ‘Silencers’ Like One Used in Virginia Beach Shooting: ‘I Don’t Like Them at All’

[Member 52301]

Beem saying it since Sandy Hook, its all a chit show to convince the sheeple that we need to dissarm Americans for our own safety!
Brother @nammac amd I were just discussing this very thing! Sadly, its not out in public, and quickly dismissed as tin foil when it does get discussed

THIS and thank you.

It is not tinfoil in my NOT so humble opinion.

Old Lady Cate

 

[Member 52301]

As I always say: "Slaves aren't allowed to own swords..."
People in power will always seek to disarm the masses.
LB

This and thank you. I have said that for years.

Yes, and it does not matter what initial is behind their name.

Some of them will tell you outright that they want to BAN x, y and z and impose more gun laws on the honest gun man/woman and the other side may or may not tell you outright what they want to BAN but they will be sneaky about it or do something unconstitutional.

Or they (IT does not matter who is in power.) will stick their finger up in the AIR to see which way the political winds are blowing.

Or they will LISTEN to some 'winners' (NOT!!!) who work for them. Aka take advantage of the old man or old woman because we can MANIPULATE HIM TO DO WHAT WE TELL HIM TO DO, HIRE A, B OR C and let him 'think' that it is all his/her decision even though he wants INPUT coming from all sides when in REALITY - the flip flopping continues since he or she has NO REAL FOUNDATION WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A TRUE BELIEVER IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.

Plus throw in the fact that he/she has BS coming at him/her from all sides even though he/she causes A LOT but NOT all of the BS CHAOS and CONFUSION FROM THE GITGO IN GUN RIGHTS, THE CONSTITUTION AND IN OTHER BASIC LAWS IN THIS SOVEREIGN NATION.

SO either way, one or the other side can and WILL BE MANIPULATED by having their BIG FAT EGO STROKED, be the ones who only want GUNS AND SELF DEFENSE FOR THEMSELVES and to H with that _D--n piece of paper (Constitution!) as Bush 2 and others (R,D, etc.) have said in the past, ADD in the fact that the peons will NOT be compensated for their NOW ILLEGAL ITEMS in gun parts or in types of guns - future bans, ADD in the fact that was once legal is now illegal over night since the President signed a piece of paper that even an ANTI GUN D President said was legal according to the ATF several years ago, etc.

Bad decisions made by all in power. They want the guns, power, control and protection and to H with the little people.

I never wanted or bought some of the gun acc. that some people buy and use. Some parts and some guns do not interest me as some of my guns may NOT interest some other people!

My simple former guns or present guns may or may not have appealed to some people.

With that said... I will ALWAYS SUPPORT what another person chooses to own and shoot because I happen to think that GUN BANS and gun acc. bans are NOT Constitutional.

IF they come for your x, y or z in a gun or gun acc. part - they can come for a lever action rifle or a bolt action rifle just because it was EASY FOR THEM TO BAN THE BLACK RIFLE OR SUPPRESSOR/SILENCER OR WHATEVER!

GUN CONTROL = PEOPLE CONTROL!

Old Lady Cate

 

[Member 52301]

I do not understand why there is such a long wait to be approved for your suppressor or silencer. (Whatever you choose to call them.)

WHY do the paperwork and tax stamp take so long to be approved?

Thank you.

Cate

 

[notazombie]

By design

 

[Boboclown]

I do not understand why there is such a long wait to be approved for your suppressor or silencer. (Whatever you choose to call them.)

WHY do the paperwork and tax stamp take so long to be approved?

Thank you.

Cate

Cause they don't like an armed citizen, all the stuff we get now is just to appease us and make us lazy.

 

[GWS]

I do not understand why there is such a long wait to be approved for your suppressor or silencer. (Whatever you choose to call them.)

WHY do the paperwork and tax stamp take so long to be approved?

Thank you.

Cate

Because if they make it expensive ($200 Tax Stamp) and inconvenient (8-14 month wait) most people won't bother to even try to get a suppressor. Meanwhile they can say suppressors are legal and that they haven't violated anyone's rights.

 

[CountryGent]

Supreme Court to decide to hear US Army vet's 'unconstitutional' gun suppressor this week after national controversy

Woah, this could be big, either in a good or bad way. Imagine if by some miracle NFA34 was ruled unconstitutional?

 

[DB is Here]

Woah, this could be big, either in a good or bad way. Imagine if by some miracle NFA34 was ruled unconstitutional?

Interesting

 

[NW Backpacker]

Let's write and call Mr. T on the suppressor issue and on the red flag laws. Don't wait until Congress proposes more anti laws. Plant the seed in his brain to say NO when they propose more restrictions.
Contact the White House | The White House

Educate him by sending this NRA-ILA article:
NRA-ILA | Does a Suppressed Pistol Sound like a Nail Gun?

Call before 1 pm Pacific time - may take a while to get thru - earlier probably better:
202-456-1111

 

[GWS]

Woah, this could be big, either in a good or bad way. Imagine if by some miracle NFA34 was ruled unconstitutional?

j
Now there's a happy thought.

 

[4Freedom]

Let's write and call Mr. T on the suppressor issue and on the red flag laws. Don't wait until Congress proposes more anti laws. Plant the seed in his brain to say NO when they propose more restrictions.
Contact the White House | The White House

Educate him by sending this NRA-ILA article:
NRA-ILA | Does a Suppressed Pistol Sound like a Nail Gun?

Call before 1 pm Pacific time - may take a while to get thru - earlier probably better:
202-456-1111

I wrote a message to The White House using the Contact the White House link. Thanks for sharing. I told President Trump if he doesn't change his course of action I will very likely be voting for Libertarian candidate (or maybe none at all) in the next election.

To be honest, I would prefer a Republican dominated Senate and/or House with a Democrat over a anti-gun Republican President. Many people blame BIll Clinton for the first Assault Weapon Ban and not realizing that BIll Clinton literally was consulting Ronald Reagan and George BUsh who helped him write up the legislation and devoted as much time as Clinton did to passing the measure. To be honest, I don't know anymore what is the best for gun owners in this country. If Republicans go back to their anti-gun stance of the 70s, 80s and 90s, we could see a much greater loss of gun rights than these looney Democrats whose insanity and extreme measures have seem to unite conservatives across the country and make us appreciate the rights they have been championing to take away. But, if we get Trump, Graham, Abbott, among with sevearl other NE RINOs all pushing Assault Weapon Bans and "Sensible Gun Laws" we may find our gun rights are stripped away much faster than these looney Communists who are championing the most extreme measures of gun confiscation, 90% tax rates, socialized medicine, etc. The Democrats nuttiness and lack of ingenuity is actually the one thing that is helping conservatives to sustain the rights we had.

Trump didn't win the last election based on his merit alone. I feel he won the last election , because Hillary Clinton was such an atrocious and horrible candidate and she even was caught rigging elections against the more popular candidate of her party, Bernie Sanders.

How short our memories are, but do people remember when 1994 Assault Weapon Ban? George HW Bush and Ronald Reagan were some of the greatest supporters. In fact, Donald Trump was also a great supporter of the Assault Weapon Ban and magically became pro-gun when he became a Republican candidate and began run for President.

Opinion | What Happened to the Ban on Assault Weapons?

 

[4Freedom]

A little history on Donald Trump's beliefs on gun rights. As late as 2000 (when Donald Trump was already an older man), he wrote very anti-gun venomous statements in his book, "The America We Deserve". Basically, to quote the article:

Before he was a presidential contender, he called out Republicans who "walk the NRA line" and "refuse even limited restrictions" on firearms laws, in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve.

Donald Trump for many years, up until recently was a big advocate for gun restrictions and was very much against the NRA and believed strongly in gun control. But, something miraculous happened. He decided to become a Republican and suddenly realized he actually is one ofthe strongest defenders of gun rights. Isn't that amazing? Kind of like a spiritual awakening, right? Or, maybe he just wanted to get elected??

Ready, Aim, Fired: Donald Trump and Guns, Explained

In the year 2000, Trump boldly stated, "I Support a Ban On Assault Weapons":
Donald Trump in 2000: "I Support the Ban on Assault Weapons"


To quote Donald Trump's statement in 2000:

It's often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today's internet technology we should be able to tell within 72 hours if a potential gun owner has a record."

Donald Trump in 2000: "I Support the Ban on Assault Weapons"

Does anyone in their right mind really believe he had a major change of heart and isn't just playing politics? He alraedy helped ban bump stocks and lied about pushing National Reciprocity and Constitutional Carry. Does anyone really think when he gets his 2nd term he may not have another change of heart and revert back to what he believed for a majority of his life before he became the President?

Let's put it this way, Trump doesn't support gun rights, if he did, he would have defended our rights to own suppressors like any other pro-gun candidate. He is a lying, conniving, double-crossing weasle who basically markets himself, like a true businessman, to the highest bidder. Those just happened to be Republicans at the time who were in need of having someone tell them what they needed to hear and felt threatened by the onslaught of the headstrong and crazy Democrat candidates. But, who is really more dangerous? The lion or the snake? People can hear the roar of a lion, but many don't know when they get bitten by a snake. Trump is the snake , in my opinion and could be potentially more dangerous to our gun rights . I also question his mental state and sanity!

BTW, what the hell is going on with North Korea. He refuses to take any action against Kim Jong Un, quoting "He Likes the GUy". This guy who Trump likes, BTW, has mass murdered tens of thousands, if not even over a million innocent people. The numbers will never be known. That guy is reported to take young girls and use them as sex slaves. He murders anybody he likes or has any suspicion of disloyalty. Like this guy? This guy is a slimebag and should have been taken out a long time ago. Is he jealous of other dictators?

 

[Hayharnel]

A little history on Donald Trump's beliefs on gun rights. As late as 2000 (when Donald Trump was already an older man), he wrote very anti-gun venomous statements in his book, "The America We Deserve". Basically, to quote the article:


Donald Trump for many years, up until recently was a big advocate for gun restrictions and was very much against the NRA and believed strongly in gun control. But, something miraculous happened. He decided to become a Republican and suddenly realized he actually is one ofthe strongest defenders of gun rights. Isn't that amazing? Kind of like a spiritual awakening, right? Or, maybe he just wanted to get elected??

Ready, Aim, Fired: Donald Trump and Guns, Explained

In the year 2000, Trump boldly stated, "I Support a Ban On Assault Weapons":
Donald Trump in 2000: "I Support the Ban on Assault Weapons"


To quote Donald Trump's statement in 2000:




Donald Trump in 2000: "I Support the Ban on Assault Weapons"

Does anyone in their right mind really believe he had a major change of heart and isn't just playing politics? He alraedy helped ban bump stocks and lied about pushing National Reciprocity and Constitutional Carry. Does anyone really think when he gets his 2nd term he may not have another change of heart and revert back to what he believed for a majority of his life before he became the President?

Let's put it this way, Trump doesn't support gun rights, if he did, he would have defended our rights to own suppressors like any other pro-gun candidate. He is a lying, conniving, double-crossing weasle who basically markets himself, like a true businessman, to the highest bidder. Those just happened to be Republicans at the time who were in need of having someone tell them what they needed to hear and felt threatened by the onslaught of the headstrong and crazy Democrat candidates. But, who is really more dangerous? The lion or the snake? People can hear the roar of a lion, but many don't know when they get bitten by a snake. Trump is the snake , in my opinion and could be potentially more dangerous to our gun rights . I also question his mental state and sanity!

BTW, what the hell is going on with North Korea. He refuses to take any action against Kim Jong Un, quoting "He Likes the GUy". This guy who Trump likes, BTW, has mass murdered tens of thousands, if not even over a million innocent people. The numbers will never be known. That guy is reported to take young girls and use them as sex slaves. He murders anybody he likes or has any suspicion of disloyalty. Like this guy? This guy is a slimebag and should have been taken out a long time ago. Is he jealous of other dictators?

He hasn't done anything to hurt Our gun rights! Remember we have a 2nd amendment! Also who is better than Him? I think he's doing a great job, trying to fulfill every promise and all with fighting the opposition. Look at the economy! Look at gun prices, doesn't look like he's trying to take them away to me?

Who do you suggest I vote for? LOL

 

[4Freedom]

He hasn't done anything to hurt Our gun rights! Remember we have a 2nd amendment! Also who is better than Him? I think he's doing a great job, trying to fulfill every promise and all with fighting the opposition. Look at the economy! Look at gun prices, doesn't look like he's trying to take them away to me?

Who do you suggest I vote for? LOL

Well, I have to correct your statement a little. He helped ban Bump Stocks, which were supposed to be guaranteed for us to own by our 2nd Amendment. No, I don't own one and don't care if you think they are dumb. Some people probably think Suppressors, Drums or high cap magazines are dumb too. I'm sure many people want a ban on AK/AR pistols and think they are dumb. However, they are a right guaranteed by our 2nd Amendment and Donald Trump signed a bill to ban that right. So he is no defender of our 2nd Amendment. And, now Mr. Trump is calling for a ban on suppressors. Can you please explain to me how he is defending our 2nd Amendment when he is calling to ban firearm accessories that are supposed to be guaranteed as a right in our Constitution? And, once he bans suppressors what makes you think he won't decide to go over after something else after the next mass shooting? I can just hear Trump saying after the next mass shooting, " High Capacity Magazines are Stupid, we need to ban those!". This is very dangerous and potentially malicious statements that may sound like conjecture for now, but may become the haunting words and force of law in the near future. BTW, what ever happened to National Reciprocity and Constitutional Carry? Remember those campaign promises? I am sorry, but I truly don't believe he is the friend of the 2nd Amendment. Gun prices were pretty low even when Obama was president, once the Republicans took over the Congress. If gun owners feel their rights are secure, gun prices go down. If they feel threatened in the least, they start climbing and even can skyrocket (like 2008 election).

I never give credit completely to a president for the economy , but also the Congress. Our economy started improving as soons as Republicans took over the Congress, even under Obama. The Republicans blocked all of Obama's nutty economic proposals, helping to protect the economy. When Republicans gained full control the economy really took a boost. Yes, if you take socialists (like the Democrats) out of the government and put more capitalist minded people, then the economy will improve. However, if those capitalists want to take away our gun rights, then you may find yourself with a lot more spare change as you will have less guns to buy.

I don't know who you should vote for.. If Trump says he wants a Suppressor Ban.. I'd suggest voting Libertarian (yes, means a Democrat may take power) and voting for every other pro-gun Republican candidate (or whoever has a chance of actually winning) you can. As I said, an anti-gun Republican president is more dangerous than an anti-gun Democrat president. Anti-gun Democrats mobilize Republicans and magically turn them into Libertarian-minded pro-gun people. Even Mr. Mayors Against Gun/Anti-Gun Zealot Rudolph Giuliani (a good buddy of Trump) magically became pro-gun when running for President when he found out that Republicans wanted a pro-gun candidate and Democrats were calling for gun bans.

 

[cmica]

TOO MUCH F*CKING KOOL AID DRINKING!!!


someone pass me a cold one...

 

[The Heretic]

He hasn't done anything to hurt Our gun rights!

You obviously have not been paying attention.

Ever hear of those things called "bumpstocks"?

Just because that didn't affect the core of gun owners doesn't mean it didn't whittle away at our rights. Now he is talking about suppressors. He has never been a friend to the Second Amendment, and he has proven time and again that he can't be trusted to do anything he says he would do, even if it was just not doing anything against our gun rights instead of doing something for us.

Remember we have a 2nd amendment! Also who is better than Him? I think he's doing a great job, trying to fulfill every promise and all with fighting the opposition. Look at the economy! Look at gun prices, doesn't look like he's trying to take them away to me?

1) Since you asked, the Libertarian party candidates have always been better than him. The only reason he won was because so many people couldn't stand Clinton, including the far left who were mad about how she stole votes from Sanders.

2) As for the economy, ask the farmers how they feel about him destroying their livelihoods. The POTUS, left or right, has very little to do with the economy. It was already plowing full steam ahead before he even announced he was going to run for president.

3) Gun prices are driven by demand. Right now people are laying back thinking they are safe with him in the White House. They don't care if he bans bumpstocks. They won't care if he does anything about suppressors because only 2-3% of gun owners own suppressors. Remember the HPA? The reciprocity act? What happened to those? Trump and the GOP pissed away their political capital and time fighting over the healthcare act and the tax cut, and now they won't do anything for us.

Obama didn't really do anything against us either - at least he didn't ban bumpstocks, he didn't ban 'firearms' that are effectively an SBS (Shockwave, Tac 14, et. al.), he didn't ban binary triggers, he didn't ban pistol "braces", effectively giving us SBRs without the NFA - it was during his admin that the ATF approved these firearms and firearm accessories. Not a single peep that I remember hearing.

Want to have Obama back because the economy did well under him and he didn't do much against our gun rights either? No? I didn't think so.

Anybody who thinks Trump is their friend in power hasn't been paying attention - not really paying attention.

 

[The Heretic]

. I'd suggest voting Libertarian (yes, means a Democrat may take power)

In any of the states on the left coast, voting Libertarian for POTUS doesn't hurt the chances of any GOP candidate one iota.

Oregon, Washington, California all are 'winner take all' states with regards to the electoral college. They all went to Obama and they all went to Clinton. Voting for the GOP POTUS candidate is a wasted vote if you were voting Republican to vote against the Democratic candidate, because your vote didn't count.

 

[partsed]

I eat once aday as is, i could try a month. All my c&r is on the chopping block for some more modern purchases, if he presses on suppressors im bubblegum outta luck. By the time ill have money for them they will probably be"bumpstocked"

How much for your Model 8 or 81???

 

[Basedgreaser]

How much for your Model 8 or 81???

Its in* the classifieds

 

[Hayharnel]

You guys are really smart! Lets split the vote and get a AOC Type person in there good thinking. Maybe that's why we have the problem we have now? Lets just not vote because everyone is anti gun. Great idea smart guys.