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Democratic or not that doesn't mean we have to allow it or that it in the best interest of regional stability to allow it. All we have to do is say no, we need a buffer zone between NATO and Russia or we get what we are getting now. If it all seems to be working out just great then sure. Doesnt seem like it worked out all that well to me. We had 15-20 years there where Russia was weakened by the fall of the Soviet Union and the internal disputes that came with that and we swooped in and "allowed" in as many former Soviet controlled states as we could in theat time. Russia isn't going to "allow" Ukraine to go that route and unless you have noticed the Ukrainians have been cozying up a lot to whoever they could buy in the last 10 years . Now we can say hold on Russia you dont have the right and they'll keep n doing whatever it was they were because they dont care what we say any more.NATO isn't being pushed east, it is democratic countries formerly occupied or dominated by Russia that are begging to join because they know better than anyone what Putin and Co. can and will do. In the past America supported a lot of dictators and despots simply because they said they were anti-communist, so third-world doubts about our genuine interest in supporting democracy were well placed.
I wished we only supported democratic countries willing to do their own fighting.