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Timbers games frisking policy

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by mcmpdx, Aug 2, 2014.

  1. mcmpdx

    mcmpdx SE Portland New Member

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    Hi all,

    I will be going to a game at Providence Park soon and was wondering if anyone has gone to that stadium, and whether or not they frisk for weapons when entering? We will be taking public transit, so it's not like I can just go put my firearm back in my car if I were to be frisked, so needless to say in that situation the even would be ruined for me and my wife.

    Thanks for any info!
     
  2. pchewn

    pchewn Beaverton Oregon USA Well-Known Member

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    They sometimes look in women's purses. They don't frisk. I think they are looking for glass bottles (beer, etc).
     
  3. ocarolan

    ocarolan Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If a self-defense need came up, remember there is no real safe way to deploy a firearm, on the daytime MAX or at a Timber's game. Bystanders may get ricochet, assuming you get a clear field of fire at all. Taser or pepperblaster can help though.
     
  4. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    True, in those two crowded places. However, going to and from those places is a different story - walking city streets with beggars making a living, getting cash from the ATM, paying for parking at a self-service lot - all places where I would certainly want to have more than pepper spray.
     
  5. ocarolan

    ocarolan Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Agreed for most cities. Good to consider that (despite appearances) Portland is essentially safe. Forbes rated 3rd safest city in the US. In theory Gresham or Aloha is more dangerous.

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/nwheadlines/2009/10/portland_is_americas_no_3_safe.html

    PS for me, CC is not the best option on Trimet. Here's some observations from a decade of MAX commuting:

    Retention - A packed post-Timbers MAX will put you standing cheek-by-jowl with strangers. They'll notice if your IWB carry bumps them. Their hands may already be brushing that area, so you'd have very little warning before someone could disarm you or at least precipitate a struggle.

    Even if you hold out for your own seat with strong-side protected, you'll brush people as you enter and exit the train. Worse, if a train stalls, you get shunted onto a packed shuttle bus - this happens maybe once a week.

    Passengers also fall asleep a lot. If that happens, a neighbor might investigate your weird lump he felt earlier.

    Can't use it - Shooting inside a small metal/glass box is a non-starter: ricochet, spall, flying shards. Personally I try to avoid carrying into a venue where I can't use it.

    The reason is if someone struggles with you for the gun, you may need to fire, but you can't. I'm introducing a tool only my opponent can use.

    Dropping your gun (it happens) could also be a disaster on the MAX. Some of the characters aboard would pick it up and not give it back. Some random tourists might even freak out and attack me.

    Anyway I'd rather carry a taser or small mace can than a handgun on the MAX. Others are welcome to it though.
     
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  6. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Don't they let chainsaws in there?
     
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  7. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ya, but not concealed..Don't know about OC........;)
     
  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    This is why I carry a very small pistol behind my wallet. bump it all you want its a wallet. try to get it out of my tight jeans pocket without my assistance GOOD LUCK. If I use a pistol for seld defense chances are I will be able to almost touch the bad guy so aim, shot placement, and penetration are not a big worry.
     
  9. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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  10. mcmpdx

    mcmpdx SE Portland New Member

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    Thanks all for your input. ocarolan had my scenario the most correct. It was not at the event I was worried about so much, and we decided to drive/park so the MAX was not in play.... it was more the day-to-day getting there, parking garages/elevators, etc., just the same reasons we all carry every day to begin with. It worked out OK in the end, and the MLS even beat Bayern Munich!