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The 1911 Pistol is its own tool box.

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by titsonritz, Nov 9, 2013.

  1. titsonritz

    titsonritz has left the building. Well-Known Member

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    over and out
     
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  2. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I think you,being a smart individual,should do a you tube video of this

    :dunno:

    Thanks BTW
     
  3. Cameron72

    Cameron72 Harrington, WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    That just made me learn something new. Wow!
     
  4. Soren

    Soren Beaverton, Oregon Active Member

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    Agreed!

    Great article!
     
  5. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

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    It's an interesting article, but it's a myth.

    There are not any citations for any of it being by design.
     
  6. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

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    Uhm, you have that backwards.

    No one has a source to support the claim that any of this is by design-- there were, and are no notes about the design process outside the army.

    No one has ever produced any reputable citation to support the idea that any of this was by design, and I defy anyone here to do so. (Not to mention that a lot of it doesn't really work very well, and if it was by design, it certainly wasn't up to JMB's standards.)

    Not to mention that you can't prove a negative. But do carry on.
     
  7. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have to wonder, too. The 1911 has been a popular tool, even if only off and on, since uh, well, probably 1912. If this was by design, don't you think we would have known for a while now?

    I always assume a round bottomed slot in a screw head is for a coin. If the grip panel screw was designed to be removed by the rim of a cartridge the slot would be dovetail in shape because the rim can not be inserted squarely into the slot like a screwdriver tip will be.

    But...

    (Big butt?)

    Whoever figured out that you can do all of this with one casing and the parts removed from the gun was thinkin! This is a great thing to share with 1911 fans.

    Thanks
     
  8. Nickb

    Nickb Moxee Active Member

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    I can't get the rim of the case to go into the Allen head screws.

    I would rather use punches to tear mine all the way down.

    I would rather pull the mainspring housing first so the hammer didn't have any tension on it when I start pushing pins out.
     
  9. PuddleMonkey

    PuddleMonkey Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Taurus has them all beat, it just comes apart on its own.



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  10. SevenRemMag

    SevenRemMag west linn/oregon city Member

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    Haha, is that a good or bad thing I can't tell yet
     
  11. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    It is not new it is over 100 years old !!!!!!!!!
     
  12. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I needed to give my gun a good cleanin the other night. I needed an allen wrench (see the "screwdriver" in the pic) to remove the grip screws. After that I mostly used parts from the gun. In this pic the sear, disconnector and trigger were already replaced in the frame. I did not disassemble the mainspring housing or remove the sights. I probably could have used the sear spring to remove the mag release, but used a small screwdriver instead. Ya really don't need much to tear one of these all of the way down.
    parts_zps2f859a47.jpg
     
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  13. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    There are some things about the 1911 that have been asserted over the years, but unfortunately JMB and/or those who worked with and for him didn't leave such notes behind.

    I've heard of the 1911 being its own tool box...nothing to confirm that it was made that way on purpose, but it does make one wonder.

    A gun that was designed and manufactured in a different era...
     
  14. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's like JMB laid the foundations to the great pyramids. Subsequent improvements only capped the top 1/3rd, if that.
    Imagine one of the big gun companies trying to invent the model 1911 today without JMB to lead the way.
    The straight forward genius of the man is pretty impressive.
     
  15. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

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    If you say so.

    The 1911 has weak points.
     
  16. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    So does the German Luger, but you don't see an industry based on that model.
     
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  17. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Elaborate, please.
     
  18. Awmish

    Awmish Oregon City, OR Member

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    It's hard to beat the fit, function, and design of the 1911 family. Improvements have been made over the years, but the core has remained the same.
     
  19. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    You mean like when you are behind one?
     
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  20. BadMotel

    BadMotel Bellingham Active Member

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    I'd rather be behind one than in front of one.
     
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