The 1911 Pistol is its own tool box.

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  1. titsonritz

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    over and out
     
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    I think you,being a smart individual,should do a you tube video of this

    :dunno:

    Thanks BTW
     
  3. Cameron72

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    That just made me learn something new. Wow!
     
  4. Soren

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    Agreed!

    Great article!
     
  5. Jammer Six

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    It's an interesting article, but it's a myth.

    There are not any citations for any of it being by design.
     
  6. Jammer Six

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    Uhm, you have that backwards.

    No one has a source to support the claim that any of this is by design-- there were, and are no notes about the design process outside the army.

    No one has ever produced any reputable citation to support the idea that any of this was by design, and I defy anyone here to do so. (Not to mention that a lot of it doesn't really work very well, and if it was by design, it certainly wasn't up to JMB's standards.)

    Not to mention that you can't prove a negative. But do carry on.
     
  7. orygun

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    I have to wonder, too. The 1911 has been a popular tool, even if only off and on, since uh, well, probably 1912. If this was by design, don't you think we would have known for a while now?

    I always assume a round bottomed slot in a screw head is for a coin. If the grip panel screw was designed to be removed by the rim of a cartridge the slot would be dovetail in shape because the rim can not be inserted squarely into the slot like a screwdriver tip will be.

    But...

    (Big butt?)

    Whoever figured out that you can do all of this with one casing and the parts removed from the gun was thinkin! This is a great thing to share with 1911 fans.

    Thanks
     
  8. Nickb

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    I can't get the rim of the case to go into the Allen head screws.

    I would rather use punches to tear mine all the way down.

    I would rather pull the mainspring housing first so the hammer didn't have any tension on it when I start pushing pins out.
     
  9. PuddleMonkey

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    Taurus has them all beat, it just comes apart on its own.



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  10. SevenRemMag

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    Haha, is that a good or bad thing I can't tell yet
     
  11. cookie

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    It is not new it is over 100 years old !!!!!!!!!
     
  12. orygun

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    I needed to give my gun a good cleanin the other night. I needed an allen wrench (see the "screwdriver" in the pic) to remove the grip screws. After that I mostly used parts from the gun. In this pic the sear, disconnector and trigger were already replaced in the frame. I did not disassemble the mainspring housing or remove the sights. I probably could have used the sear spring to remove the mag release, but used a small screwdriver instead. Ya really don't need much to tear one of these all of the way down.
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    There are some things about the 1911 that have been asserted over the years, but unfortunately JMB and/or those who worked with and for him didn't leave such notes behind.

    I've heard of the 1911 being its own tool box...nothing to confirm that it was made that way on purpose, but it does make one wonder.

    A gun that was designed and manufactured in a different era...
     
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    It's like JMB laid the foundations to the great pyramids. Subsequent improvements only capped the top 1/3rd, if that.
    Imagine one of the big gun companies trying to invent the model 1911 today without JMB to lead the way.
    The straight forward genius of the man is pretty impressive.
     
  15. Jammer Six

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    If you say so.

    The 1911 has weak points.
     
  16. jbett98

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    So does the German Luger, but you don't see an industry based on that model.
     
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    Elaborate, please.
     
  18. Awmish

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    It's hard to beat the fit, function, and design of the 1911 family. Improvements have been made over the years, but the core has remained the same.
     
  19. MarkAd

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    You mean like when you are behind one?
     
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    I'd rather be behind one than in front of one.
     
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