Target/Match AR Build

[TwinStick]

I'm collecting parts for a precision type AR build. I'm saving some money where I can and focusing the extra funds on the important parts.

Wilson Combat Super Sniper 20" fluted barrel
Wilson Combat adjustable gas block
Young National Match BCG
JL Billet 17" FFHG
POF trigger (might end up putting this in my M4 and putting an Elftmann in this rifle down the road)
Noveske Super Badass charging handle
Ergo Deluxe Tac Grip
Phase 5 Bolt Release
Phase 5 Winter Trigger Guard
KNS Pins

Here's where I'm saving some money:

RRA stripped upper
Anderson stripped lower
Standard A2 stock
Strike Enhanced LPK w/o trigger or grip


Any thoughts? I already had the forged receivers laying around so I figured I'd use those since forged is forged IMO. I actually like the A2 stock so I don't need to spend $$$ on a UBR or anything.

I haven't ordered the barrel, bcg or gas block yet. Bartlein and Krieger are out of my price range, but I've looked seriously at Faxon and Noveske also.

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[slimmer13]

If it was me, I'd save for a Lilja.

 

[TwinStick]

Dang, that's like $750.

 

[Kruel J]

The lower, the BCG and all the other goodies aren't going to make it more accurate. Stick to a high quality upper and barrel. As far as the Elfmann trigger, I'd go two stage for any kind of precision distance work. I know people around here argue about it, but when shooting at a long distance, you want to stage it, then breath in, then exhale. The first stage helps so much there. YMMV.

And don't cheap out on the optic.

 

[slimmer13]

Most of their AR barrels are around $500, which is only a couple hundred more than a mid level precision barrel (BHW etc) and worth it IMO.

http://riflebarrels.com/shop/drop-in-barrels/223-8-ar24-non-threaded/

 

[TwinStick]

Thanks for the input. I misread the Lilja site. Their barrel is about $200 more than the Wilson. Not too bad.

I've never used a 2-stage trigger, but I'll look into it for sure. It'll definitely get good glass. Don't really have anything in mind yet, but I'm sure it will cost as much as the rest of the rifle if not more.

 

[Greenbug]

When you look into buying your barrel, it is a good idea to buy one with a bolt already headspaced to the barrel extension.

 

[ron]

The most popular and exspensive barrel you can buy for High Power Competition
(600 yards) is a Krieger. The most accurate barrel used by all the top shooters.
Lasts several thousand rounds longer than other competition barrels. White Oak
is also very popular cheaper alternative.https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-223-match-grade-dcm-barrel-prod54578.aspx
White Oak Armament | Quality Parts for Competitive and Casual Shooters

 

[DirectDrive]

I'm collecting parts for a precision type AR build. I'm saving some money where I can and focusing the extra funds on the important parts.

Wilson Combat Super Sniper 20" fluted barrel

I think these are ER Shaw barrels
Krieger, Lilja, WOA and even RRA (Wilson Arms) in .223 Wylde
The sleeper deals would be WOA or RRA

Wilson Combat adjustable gas block

Probably not needed, but OK

Young National Match BCG

Over-priced but good.....Toolcraft FTW

JL Billet 17" FFHG

Personal choice

POF trigger (might end up putting this in my M4 and putting an Elftmann in this rifle down the road)

Meh...Geiselle is on sale

Noveske Super Badass charging handle

BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 or 3

Ergo Deluxe Tac Grip

Personal

Phase 5 Bolt Release

I wouldn't for a precision build

Phase 5 Winter Trigger Guard

I like the Magpul shape

KNS Pins

I'd use regular pins

Here's where I'm saving some money:

RRA stripped upper
Anderson stripped lower

Last time I looked, RRA was still using "rifle" uppers
Which means no M4 cuts
It will still work with a barrel that has M4 ramps but it will be slightly funky looking
having the Anderson rollmark devalues the whole rig, even though "a lower is a lower"
Go to Schuyler Arms and grab a Gen 2 Aero Precision matched set and be done
Gen 2 has the tightener (padded screw) so that eliminates the need for the KNS pins

Standard A2 stock
Strike Enhanced LPK w/o trigger or grip

Good


Any thoughts? I already had the forged receivers laying around so I figured I'd use those since forged is forged IMO. I actually like the A2 stock so I don't need to spend $$$ on a UBR or anything.

I haven't ordered the barrel, bcg or gas block yet. Bartlein and Krieger are out of my price range, but I've looked seriously at Faxon and Noveske also.[/QUOTE]

 

[hatchj]

What makes these high end match barrels so expensive? My ballistic advantage barrel was just over 200 with a pre installed low profile gas block and a 1 moa (or sub moa, dont remember) guarantee. The thing shoots ragged holes, and it's not a "precision" ar.

Not trying to bash on anything. Just curious.

 

[DirectDrive]

What makes these high end match barrels so expensive? My ballistic advantage barrel was just over 200 with a pre installed low profile gas block and a 1 moa (or sub moa, dont remember) guarantee. The thing shoots ragged holes, and it's not a "precision" ar.

Not trying to bash on anything. Just curious.

I think you can get a pretty dang good barrel these days without throwing down a fistful of Benjamins.

White Oak
RRA
Criterion
Are a few that come to mind.

With the high dollar barrels you get :
Cut rifling vs. button rifled
Stress relieved
Air gauged
Hand lapped
Blah blah

The bug holes must be smaller because the competition guys use them.

 

[ron]

Last time I looked, RRA was still using "rifle" uppers

RRA in my experience would be an excellent choice. RRA factory built uppers at
a discount. All Products | PK Firearms
18 inch???http://www.pkfirearms.com/rock-river-arms-r3-competition-upper

 

[DirectDrive]

I like PK, they have good stuff for honest prices.

Lower right pic is what I was referring to in my previous post :


A RRA rifle set up is going to look like upper left.

Lower left is the bad one as shown and labeled.

 

[TwinStick]

I just looked at my RRA upper. It doesn't have M4 ramps, but it is machine out some. It has minor "ramps". Still not preferred, but I'll give it a shot. Maybe replace it down the road.

As for the Anderson lower - I don't care much about value since it's for me, not for sale. I'll run the Anderson...at least for now.

 

[bsa1917hunter]

I like precision ar builds. Keep us posted, as to how it shoots. The proof will be on the target. Good luck with the build.

 

[TwinStick]

Will do. Parts arrival has slowed as it is time to spend money on gifts for other people, not myself right now. It may take a few more months to complete, but I'll post how it ends up.