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Stefan Molyneux Expounds On The Prepper's Creed

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by erudne, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    This 34 minute discussion starts with Bernie Sanders and then expands to include 'The Makers and The Takers'. Twenty minutes in Stefan is advising against associating with Liberals in any way 'Because, when the bottom falls out they are going to come after your stuff' An enlightening discussion.
     
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  2. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Well, he didn't limit it to liberals, if you ask me. :)

    Molyneux has a lot to offer, and certainly makes a person think, but he's got some negatives too if you follow him for a while you will soon find out.

    I agree almost completely with his points here though. "What's in it for me?" is indeed the question. But the implication that Mexicans have nothing to offer me, well I don't agree with that. We've employed plenty over the years and they are hard workers and charge reasonable amounts. Hell, every restaurant you go to has Mexicans in the kitchen, working for you. Lots of Americans are escaping to Mexico too, like Fred Reed. Anyway it doesn't bother me to see people from other countries here. Hell I'm married to one, hardest worker I ever knew.

    The reason worthless people come here (and yes, I know there are a lot of those) is because our governments offer them welfare. To do that, they first have to plunder the productive classes. That is the problem, not some guy named Jose who wants to mow my lawn.
    http://ncc-1776.org/tle2014/tle783-20140810-03.html
     
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  3. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    It's not individuals that are the problem but their collective impact on the economy and as a voting block. It of course has consequences when there is no border control, when there is no medical screening, no criminal screening, no terrorist screening.
    I've lost count of the number of diseases that have crossed into the US since Clinton was Prezzy, the number of drug resistant bugs lose in America and diseases that were eradicated but are now common in hospitals and schools to include lice borne diseases, STDs, et al. Here is a link to a book on the subject: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK45714/
    There is a cost to altruistic narcissism
     
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  4. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Well, that is a collectivist argument. I'm not a collectivist.

    As to drug resistant bugs, that has a lot more to do with practices in corporate America (overuse of antibiotics, etc.) than it has to do with poor Mexican people. They used to talk about "dirty Irish" in the old days too.

    Altruistic narcissism? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. :)

    If you keep welfare, you are going to have uncontrolled immigration. It's just that simple. No wall is going to keep them out. "Socialism for me, but not for thee" is not a viable plan.
     
  5. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    actually drug resistant bugs are far more common in the 3rd world than in the developed countries, at least until the borders were opened world wide
     
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    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    It's still the 1st world drug companies trying to make a buck by selling into 3rd world countries without providing training, that is the cause (although it merely accelerates a natural process that is inevitable). Anyway you cannot stop these organisms by closing borders, unless you eliminate world travel altogether.
     
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  7. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    That's weird, a Molyneux video under 3 hours...
     
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  8. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Someone actually believes we'll survive Bernie Sanders?
     
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  9. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Let Trump build his wall for gosh sake and then we can really see what the effects are, either positive or negative...

    Edited to avoid any offense.
     
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    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. it's not like the wall won't have a few doors in it so we can let in those we want.

    :D
     
  11. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    A near hundred billion dollar project across 4 states that's going to require massive property seizures from private land holders, plus years of work, environmental studies that will probably double the cost? I dunno, this kinda sounds like "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" rhetoric.

    I'm all for securing the border... but this seems like an absolutely silly approach. Also, the biggest issue I have with a wall, what if it's to keep us in? Banking regs seem to be organizing more and more to prevent capital flight, so for the moment, you can't take your money, soon you might not be able to take your body with you. Then where will we be?
     
  12. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I use cash for almost everything so I'm not sure what you mean and if you want to head for Mexico over Canada, that's your call...

    I am pretty sure we spent more then that on wars over the last 20 years.

    Non of the politicians can or will follow through with hardly anything they promise - if they do it'll be a first.
     
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    markl32 North Plains Member

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    I know, right!?

    I like his content but I just don't have hours each day to watch political philosophy.