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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by speeddemon94, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. speeddemon94

    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    Tried out the Tricare for life for the first time today. Took my twins to the doctor for a checkup and a flu shot. Left my wife with them while I ran to physical therapy up at the VA Hospital.

    When I got back to pick them up, we got to the car and my wife informed me that they had asked if there were any guns in the household. She told them no. Good girl.

    I have an appointment there in two weeks, but the wife got irritated with me when I thought of all the colorful things I could respond with...

    I will likely just tell them no, but I may tell them that it is absolutely none of their business. What a pain in the butt.

    Anyone else had to deal with this yet?
     
  2. jfw

    jfw Clackamas county Active Member

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    I have not had that asked yet. Good move on your wife's part. I don't think mine would have had the sense to deny.

    I vote for colorful response! I wonder if it's only asked when kids go the doctor?
     
  3. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I will tell them that it is absolutely none of their business. They may have the right to ask. I have the right not to answer.
     
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  4. Wenis

    Wenis Tri-Cities, WA Member

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    I've worked at the VA in the physical therapy department and I've never asked someone that question. I've never heard anyone else in the department ask that question either.
     
  5. speeddemon94

    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    My first thought was to ask them if they had any guns in their house...and when they respond that, it's none of my business, or that we aren't talking about them, then I will just return the sentiment.

    The problem is, any response other than "no", will get a yes marked on the page....and possibly a mark on some list. That is my concern.
     
  6. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Havent yet...

    My wife would have possably been on the non o your business types. She hates questions like that, and quite well have the mind to never go back to that doc.

    Love my wife!
     
  7. speeddemon94

    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    Nah, not the VA. My kids doctor at OHSU Gabriel Park.
     
  8. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    We are members of a firearms site...we are on a list.

    You do not need to be rude to the Doc. Just be truthful...it really is none of his business. I myself will be polite but firm.
     
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  9. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Im not a pediatrician so I dont ask my patients about guns. But from a pediatric point of view it is similar question to asking if the kids are exposed to second hand smoke or if they wear seat belts or up to date on vaccines

    Kids do get shot accidentally so they goal of the pediatrician is to keep the kids safe.
    only 1/3 of people who have kids and firearms at home report safe storage
    Firearm ownership and storage patterns among fami... [Pediatrics. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

    should it be up to a doctor to recommend safe storage to prevent accidents? I guess that is a bigger question. But I doubt there is a sinister motive here. Just say "no" if you prefer and keep your kids safe.
     
  10. speeddemon94

    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, trust me, I'm on a list. Military involvement since '94, I'll leave it at that. All good though.

    I'm a pretty polite guy, but I wont tell them I have anything. I may however tell them no, and that it would be no concern of theirs, or anyone else, if I did.
     
  11. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    And refusing to answer will probably be marked as a "Yes" on their forms.

    But it's none of their business unless they're offering a gun safety course to everyone.

    The problems is, as I raised in another thread here, is that it will be used in future to segregate out gun owners and pay higher rates for higher risk factors, just like the Oregonian is reporting for smokers (see the front page of today's Oregonian). They just need to do more "junk" studies to "prove" it now that Obwan has proclaimed that such studies will be funded.
     
  12. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    O well...
     
  13. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Doc...Did you and your wife have sex recently?
    Me... Sorry, but that's none of your business.

    Doc...Do you stand or sit when you urinate?
    Me... Sorry, but that's none of you business.

    Doc.... Chevy or Ford?
    Me...Sorry,.....


    :D
     
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  14. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    none of their d-m business on those questions also, their job it to fix what is wrong also if they persist you should tell them that you will report them to the medical board for a boundary violation.
     
  15. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What? It is the Docs job to keep who safe? We see a Doc like what, once or twice a year and how are they helping me to keep My kids safe?
     
  16. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    double post
     
  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    they better be certified if they do that
     
  18. socksthecat

    socksthecat bothell Member

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    I just wouldn't appreciate being put in a position to have to lie just because I am exercising my 2A right as an American to own a gun. To me there is something fundamentally wrong with that. And I do think this info will be used eventually for nefarious purposes such as raising insurance rates or worse. One just has to look around and see how smokers or overweight people are being demonized. To me it's a slippery slope.
     
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  19. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    It's considered preventive care. I like to check cholesterol levels before the patient has a heart attack, rather than after its too late. Like I said, it's a bigger question if the docs should even bother on firearms. I don't ask my patients unless we are comparing hardware. I don't ask my patients if they wear seat belts. I do offer advice if they ask about preventive testing.

    If someone refuses to answer a question I don't mark "yes". I just don't record anything.

    Why even take the kids in for a well child check? Just wait until they get sick. That's an option too

    None of my colleagues are gun grabbin secret Obama Gestapo. We just want to see our patients healthy
     
  20. Solomon

    Solomon Vancouver Active Member

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    So... You sit? :laugh:
     
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