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Slide fire on AR-15 pistol?? Legal?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by snooopidydoo, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. snooopidydoo

    snooopidydoo Medford Oregon Active Member

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    Just out of curiosity, is it legal to add a slide fire stock to say a 10.5" ar pistol??

    Saw a youtube video of this.
     
  2. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    No because then it would no longer be a pistol. Pistols do not have stocks.

    If you wanted to fill out ATF paperwork and pay the tax for a SBR (which is legal in OR) it would be legal to add a stock. Here is more info if you are not aware what an SBR is, GunBroker.com Message Forums - Basic NFA FAQ (update 4-6-11)
     
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  3. snooopidydoo

    snooopidydoo Medford Oregon Active Member

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  4. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    Been watching FPS Russia?
     
  5. Mutt

    Mutt Washington, Kitsap County Member

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    That slide fire is a rediculous waste of ammo. I'm not even going to get started on the "flash enhancer".
     
  6. FatherHolyHoly

    FatherHolyHoly MN Active Member

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    Depends on who... er, what you're wasting.
     
  7. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    Fun to have I guess, but not for serious work.

    And answer is NO, Nwcid explained very well.
     
  8. Sagaba

    Sagaba Federal Way, WA Active Member

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    What if it were to only be over the buffer, with no "stock" portion on it? The mechanism itself isnt illegal on a pistol, it's the stock that gets you, no?.... hacksaw and 10 minutes :cool: Been looking into moddifiying my ARP with one but no commercial version exists that I can find.
     
  9. Sagaba

    Sagaba Federal Way, WA Active Member

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    Taken from MDshootersdotcom

    Originally Posted by midcountygunshop
    Been a while since I read the wording of the law, but even if it weren't attached(which it is), I don't think that is their wording. I believe the wording is something like 'designed to be fired from the shoulder.' Trying this on an AR pistol not registered as a SBR is sure to be in violation, in the ATF's eyes.

    But is it really fired from the shoulder? All the slide fire does is allow the rest of the firearm to reciprocate. I would imagine sawing off the "buttstock" part would turn the slidefire into an acceptable version that could be used on a pistol.
     
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  10. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    so you turned something "designed to be fired from the shoulder" and modified it. Guess what- design intent didn't change. NFA has plenty of loopholes, but if you try too hard could be very bad mojo and end up with one of those loopholes impacting you
     
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  11. Sagaba

    Sagaba Federal Way, WA Active Member

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    slide%20fire%20stock.jpg So if they did indeed produce a pistol grip and buffer sleeve only version from the get-go it would be legal? I'd be all over that and happily pay 300 bucks. I also ran into the problem in my research that the buffer has to be a carbine length with adjustable stock holes. I know the ATF has said in the past that carbine lenth buffers are okay on ARP's as long as the holes are filled. so there would have to be a design revamp there... hell i'd even be okay with it just slipping over the tube with no real attachment.

    So if I were to moddify the stock and cut off all parts of the "stock" to where it would just be the pistol grip part and the BT cover (see rough illustration above) is it legal or do I need to ask the ATF directly?

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