Washington Semiautomatic assault weapons represent a significant technological change - they allowa shooter to fire as fast as they can pull the trigger, ....

[American123]

There aren't enough people in the US with the power to organize and the will to successfully overthrow this republic.

I'd argue "this Republic" has already been overthrown, or at least it has been infested to such an extent internally by parasites and bad actors that what makes the US a "Republic" has been diminished significantly.

That being said though, statements like yours above always have a "yet" on the end of them, even if not perceived.

 

[RX-79G]

The first line seems suspect, a core tenet of the democrat political agenda is "gun control." In truth it is eliminating gun ownership of American civilians, but they settle for buzz words like "gun control" and "assault weapons," and "universal background checks" for right now. They vote in lockstep and pass whatever legislation they want to whenever they have a supermajority.

It is for some Democrats, but it doesn't have to be. Harry Reid, etc. This is a wedge issue used to get cheap votes for the left and right. The right is not large enough to keep that illusion up. The left has largely given up on a national level.

 

[RX-79G]

The first line seems suspect, a core tenet of the democrat political agenda is "gun control." In truth it is eliminating gun ownership of American civilians, but they settle for buzz words like "gun control" and "assault weapons," and "universal background checks" for right now. They vote in lockstep and pass whatever legislation they want to whenever they have a supermajority.

Suggesting to support gun rights by voting for democrats… that's difficult not to laugh about. The democrat party isn't even recognizable today compared to what it was just a handful of decades ago. The young members that get the most airtime are Marxists.

Using Seattle as a Micro Example - Seattle voters have had the choices of "Democrat A and Democrat B" for decades. The result has been a crap sandwich no matter how you cut it. The result is almost satirical, because democrats totally control Seattle politics from top to bottom and yet seemingly many voters don't notice that their unwavering ideological predetermined voting patterns have led us exactly to the situation we are in today that so many people claim to be a problem.

Seattle voted in a Rep. DA. I don't think it is a simple as you paint things.

 

[RX-79G]

I'd argue "this Republic" has already been overthrown, or at least it has been infested to such an extent internally by parasites and bad actors that what makes the US a "Republic" has been diminished significantly.

That being said though, statements like yours above always have a "yet" on the end of them, even if not perceived.

The 'parasites and bad actors' are your fellow citizens, raised in the same country, watching the same media and going to the same schools. Hating your countrymen - also not a winning strategy.

And again, strange bedfellows win. Not partisans. Major elections are settled by swing voters.

 

[American123]

Seattle voted in a Rep. DA. I don't think it is a simple as you paint things.

In practice or by label?

The reality is, there's only certain crimes in Seattle that matter anymore. Trying to insinuate it isn't Democrat controlled ideology from top to bottom in Seattle running government decisions and policy is just ignoring the facts.

 

[American123]

The 'parasites and bad actors' are your fellow citizens, raised in the same country, watching the same media and going to the same schools. Hating your countrymen - also not a winning strategy.

And again, strange bedfellows win. Not partisans. Major elections are settled by swing voters.

Nothing controversial about it, corruption is corruption, and anything Marxist is by its nature the enemy and opposite of the ideals that built this nation.

Nobody who intends to disarm me has my best interests in mind.

Also, "hating" conservative politicians seems to be a winning strategy for the left, so it just depends on who your audience is.

 

[RX-79G]

In practice or by label?

The reality is, there's only certain crimes in Seattle that matter anymore. Trying to insinuate it isn't Democrat controlled ideology from top to bottom in Seattle running government decisions and policy is just ignoring the facts.

If I had any idea what Democrat ideology means at the municipal level, I might engage on this. But as far as I can tell the "big vs small government" thing doesn't apply to local politics. What's left? Banning books vs rainbow crosswalks? Every large city struggles with crime vs enforcement budgets.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner that makes it hard for them to be taken seriously in some places. King County is one of those places. So Reps have been replaced by "centrist Democrats", that are pro-business, anti-criminal, etc.

 

[CamoDeafie]

The 'parasites and bad actors' are your fellow citizens, raised in the same country, watching the same media and going to the same schools. Hating your countrymen - also not a winning strategy.

And again, strange bedfellows win. Not partisans. Major elections are settled by swing voters.

I dunno..it worked for the British Colonists back in the 1770s and got us USA and Canada... and then again in the 1800s and got us the abolishment of most forms of slavery and indentured servitude, as well as a rather good Navy, some new weapons technology.....

 

[RX-79G]

Nothing controversial about it, corruption is corruption, and anything Marxist is by its nature the enemy and opposite of the ideals that built this nation.

Nobody who intends to disarm me has my best interests in mind.

Also, "hating" conservative politicians seems to be a winning strategy for the left, so it just depends on who your audience is.

Calling everyone a Marxist is just a childish smear. I mean, you might believe that nonsense rather than just say it, but I feel bad for you if you actually think half the US have little red books at home.

 

[nwslopoke]

No but the results may well turn violent seeing a huge bunch of armed Americans.

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Not DC, but Olympia? Not sure. 1960s. Right after GCA if the image sources are right.

Solid

 

[RX-79G]

I dunno..it worked for the British Colonists back in the 1770s and got us USA and Canada... and then again in the 1800s and got us the abolishment of most forms of slavery and indentured servitude, as well as a rather good Navy, some new weapons technology.....

Are you aligned on the correct side of that winning equation? Insisting that our shrinking view is our right, no compromises, we'll fight you with our militia might if you mess with us? Confederate or Union? Winners or losers?

 

[CamoDeafie]

Are you aligned on the correct side of that winning equation? Insisting that our shrinking view is our right, no compromises, we'll fight you with our militia might if you mess with us? Confederate or Union? Winners or losers?

not going there. Just saying that division, hatred of fellow countrymen raised in the same schools got us Independence from the British Crown first, and then resulted in a Civil War.... from which on some points, US is stronger.. on other points, weaker... depending on your beliefs.

Also

It seems to be working just fine for a particular Party that claims to harbor "no hatred"
Also seems to be working just fine for the other Party with regards to certain issues


Shrinking? Somehow I do not see more States going anti-2A/pro Gun Control.....

Edit..I just see the same few States that has been anti 2A for a long time, doubling down on gun control.

 

[nwslopoke]

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[American123]

If I had any idea what Democrat ideology means at the municipal level, I might engage on this. But as far as I can tell the "big vs small government" thing doesn't apply to local politics. What's left? Banning books vs rainbow crosswalks? Every large city struggles with crime vs enforcement budgets.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner that makes it hard for them to be taken seriously in some places. King County is one of those places. So Reps have been replaced by "centrist Democrats", that are pro-business, anti-criminal, etc.

For how much intellect you imply you have, it should be simple to understand some of this.

The issue isn't really that there isn't plenty of obvious evidence, it's that you seem obtuse to any information that doesn't seem to match your perception.

Seattle, Portland, San Francisco. Three very liberal, Democrat dominated cities. What significant problems have they been dealing with for decades that have only gotten worse despite top to bottom Democrat control over politics? Just look at anything they do, they have effectively carte blanche to enact any of their political desires, so quite literally however things are there is their political ideology, either intended or unintended.

Seattle for example: Democrats decriminalized drugs, either by law or in affect by non-enforcement of laws. Seattle's drug and mental illness disaster (creating the bum on the streets result) (invited by money for nothing fiscal policies) are entirely at the feet of democrats. Democrats also made pursuit of criminals nearly non-existent due to their latest pursuit laws. Don't want to be arrested, don't pull over. The gender confusion (thanks democrats) has led male convicts to be in prison with females resulting in females assaulted and pregnant in prison, democrats also recently passed a law that the state can (in effect) kidnap your child if they proclaim they are seeking gender reassignment surgery. Girls in school now are also unable to have their own spaces without them being invaded by boys. Those policies are already responsible for multiple sexual assaults in schools, the most publicized one was in Virginia where school officials tried to cover it up because protecting the tranny dude, and the narrative that "all is well" was more important to them than the facts.

I could go on, but based on our numerous interactions, a fact could fall from the sky and land on your head and you'd still question its existence.

I'm glad you enjoy the forum though. It helps keep the threads lively.

 

[American123]

Calling everyone a Marxist is just a childish smear. I mean, you might believe that nonsense rather than just say it, but I feel bad for you if you actually think half the US have little red books at home.

What's the difference between what Marxists advocate for and what Democrat politicians, or the party platform, advocates for?

Edit: also, you don't have to own a Communist manifesto to be led to believe Marxists ideas are "good." There's entire universities doing that and they don't hand them out as part of that process. Bernie Sanders had quite a large following of people chanting for Universal Basic Income ideas and "Free healthcare," I'd imagine most of those people didn't own the Communist Manifesto either.

 

[Diamondback]

What's the difference between what Marxists advocate for and what Democrat politicians, or the party platform, advocates for?

Nationalistic vs Internationalistic socialism, see also Hitler vs Stalin.

Shorter, from the wisdom of Agent Zed: "Same pile of scummy crap in a different wrapper."

 

[monkeybutler]

What's the difference between what Marxists advocate for and what Democrat politicians, or the party platform, advocates for?

An entirely different economic and social order? Other than that, not much.

 

[American123]

An entirely different economic and social order? Other than that, not much.

Unfortunately your quip isn't that accurate.

Elitist democrats, content with their oligarchy, advocate for socialism. Democrats within the party promote its notions regularly and openly, and national candidates for president flaunt its ideas during debates as attempts to garner support, so in reality it would appear their is very little difference except for time in development. Just like how it takes time to implement communism, but socialism is the vehicle to get their.

Edit to add: World leaders talking about "the new world order" during Covid was a nice cherry on top.

 

[American123]

Nationalistic vs Internationalistic socialism, see also Hitler vs Stalin.

Shorter, from the wisdom of Agent Zed: "Same pile of scummy crap in a different wrapper."

You are going to pop that bubble for people who call Hitler and the Nazis fascist. You can almost see that lightbulb above their head flicker when you ask them what the acronym "NAZI" stood for.

 

[Knobgoblin]

You are going to pop that bubble for people who call Hitler and the Nazis fascist. You can almost see that lightbulb above their head flicker when you ask them what the acronym "NAZI" stood for.