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Scarry if it becomes law

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by TonsOfOregonBrass, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    I saw this on another forum today. I haven't verified it, but thought i would post it here and get peoples take on it.

    To: Cabela's California Customers
    From: Cabela's Communications
    Subject: California Assembly Bill 962
    Date: Sept. 22, 2009

    We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products.

    On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote.

    Among other regulations, AB 962 would:

    • Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition.
    • Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a
    manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a
    vendor or employee.
    • Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a
    face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide
    evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee.

    That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes:

    • The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee.
    • The date of the sale or other transaction.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the
    state in which it was issued.
    • The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's signature.
    • The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.

    The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law.

    Seems pretty crappy to me to have a law like this. It just amounts to a back door ban in my opinion.

    what do you think?
  2. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This has been on the radar screen for some time now. Few people had any doubt it would get passed particularly in Commiefornia. The real question is what will Gov. Shwarzenegger do? Does anyone know where he stands on this or is he keeping mum?
  3. JumpWing

    JumpWing NK WA Member

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    Back door ban and quasi-registration.
  4. torpedoman

    torpedoman land of corrupt politicians Member

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    Sue the people who voted for it for violation of your rights a few of them would get real tired real quick of having to defend themself in court on their own dime.
  5. Randini

    Randini Salem Member

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    I can see it now just when the shelfs were getting restocked more buying runs on ammo,
    well I'am heading out the door to get more. ;)
  6. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
    -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
    This applies to California also, they just need to find a few good people with moxy to stand up and say not only NO, but **** NO! But we in Oregon & Washington better get ready because that California disease spreads north with it's liberal citizen every summer.
  7. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    Once this passes... the Terminator who is a true Republi-crat... they (Kali) will ban or impose a tax on military "assault weapon" ammo. This will spread nation wide and it will get worse. Banning ammo or imposing new taxes on ammo and reloading components will not impose on the 2A rights or at least that is what their arguments are going to be.

  8. USMC1911

    USMC1911 Salem Active Member

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    I wonder if this is a "real" threat or if I should hold off and "keep the powder dry"?
  9. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Ahh..the Peoples Liberal RepubliK of Kalifornistan....gotta love 'em.. Don't we need a weapons test site or something?
  10. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

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    Ha Ha, well played.:)
  11. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    I saw a sign in a gun store that said: (paraphrasing here) "California law prohibits California citizens from purchasing firearms in other states". People from Washington, Idaho and a number of other states can purchase firearms in Oregon, but even they have to pass Oregon's Police Background Check. I guess California residents are second or third class citizens of America who do not deserve the Rights and Freedoms that most of the other sates enjoy.
    Living close to California as I do (30 miles away), I see the encroaching "Kalifornication" of this area constantly. I guess if you live close to a sewer system, you're gonna get the smell!
    CAn anybody tell me if there are any places left in the USA where freedom still abounds?
  12. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    The definition of Ammunition in this bill is interesting :paranoid:

    So a FTF sale of this equals jail time under this bill:
  13. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    Yeah this bill seems pretty ridicules. Trlsmn, you should just throw those away. some one could get an eye poked out. If it is has to do with a gun in the communist republic of kalifornia, then it is a tool of death.

    I can't wait until the only knifes allowed are the stab proof kind.