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People who prepare for "SHTF"

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Ironbar, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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    It occurred to me today that there are a lot of people who are buying guns, ammo, and long term food for the day when they think society in general will collapse. The reality is, that within our lifetime the greatest SHTF moment is likely to be a grease fire on the stove.

    How many of these folks actually have a fire extinguisher in their kitchen?:huh:
     
  2. rattler one-7

    rattler one-7 Washington New Member

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    Good idea, I have one near the kitchen but not "in". I have baking soda which works fine too.
     
  3. Wifey

    Wifey N.E. PDX Active Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    That is a good point. We don't!
    But what better excuse than when SHTF to buy more handguns & cheese!

    Wifey
     
  4. eganx

    eganx Kingston WA Active Member

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    yeah, I was in Louisiana for hurricane Katrina/Rita. I'd say that was more than a grease fire. Will there be a polar shift, a "super volcano" or ???? probably not. But with a few guns, a bit of ammo, some camping gear and knowledge you can be prepared for most things that could actually happen.
     
  5. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    I'm gonna shoot till slide lock and then eat some cheese!!
     
  6. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I got 2 Halon extinguishers in the kitchen a 3lb dry chemical in the living room a 5lb CO2 in the shop(right off my home office door) I got a large old fashion water extinguisher by the pellet stove. And Halons and Dry chemical in both cars.
     
  7. bajagill

    bajagill John Day Member

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    The lids are always handy in the kitchen as is the baking soda! (and 8 years experience as a firefighter ;-)
     
  8. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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    Another way to totally douse a grease fire is to drape a soaking wet towel over the pan.

    You NEVER EVER EVER throw water on grease fire!
     
  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Grease fire? BLAST IT WITH PISS.
     
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  10. bajagill

    bajagill John Day Member

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    Mark W. your pm box is full. Trying to message you.
     
  11. WanderingFool

    WanderingFool Seattle New Member

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    It never happens until it does. Btw I recently had a grease fire(extinguisher under the sink) and I lived in New Orleans when Katrina hit AND was on the Tarmac at JFK watching the planes hit the towers from the plane's window on 9/11. It's going to happen, tomorrow or in a thousand years. When it does, those that have taken even rudimentary preparations will be at an amazing advantage over those that haven't. Hell, having some long shelf life food on hand is just due diligence.
     
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  12. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    Just can't ditch that black cloud huh? Bummer. Bet your Seattle neighbors are glad you moved in. :) Unless WanderingFool moves on again I'm predicting Mt Ranier will blow.
     
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  13. sadiesassy

    sadiesassy Prescott Active Member

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    I use to have my fire extinguisher under the stove - til I realized It was probably going to be hard to get to if thre was a fire.
    Not sure my wife would remember to use somethign like flour.
    Have a small one in the pantry, A large 5 lb in the garage next to the door that comes into the house which handles all types. And a three lb on the deck close to BBQ ( back up for the big one)

    Ok - Now how many of you / wife / kids really know how to use it properly.

    I am actually more concerned about small appliances causing problems.
    ie: I have a small thing that looks like a coffee pot that we heat water in. PLug it in - Came back and the thing failed to turn off - Boy was it hot.
    Read it a repot - Worse fires are the result of major appliance failures such as dishwashers. Problem - people run them when they are not home or at night so they do not know they have a problem.
     
  14. WanderingFool

    WanderingFool Seattle New Member

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    I actually feel really lucky to have experienced the effects of Katrina and the aftermath of 9/11. Certainly better than watching the media report about it on TV. Oh, and that life is short and unpredictable and best enjoyed as much as possible. I also learned that disasters bring the very best and worst in people.
    Nothing wrong with being reasonably prepared.
     
  15. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Junction City Active Member

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    I have a fire extinguisher in the kitchen, 1 in the laundry room and four buried in strategic locations around my yard!

    Seriously though, prepping is not only a good idea but fun as well. Who doesn't want a stockpile of food, guns and ammo? You are buying peace of mind, just like insurance....while the chances of ever needing it our slim you sleep better knowing you've done what you can to protect your family.

    You could apply the OP's logic to owning a firearm. Odds are you will never need it but if you did you would feel like a real tool if you didn't have it.
     
  16. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Yup, and how many people who are prepared for "SHTF" are prepared for an electrical fire starting at their house when they're not home? I am reasonably prepared for reasonable cases. I have a week's worth of food in my detached shed, in a waterproof/animalproof container, I have standard safety items in the house, I have a hybrid car with a high-power 110V inverter and two 5 gallon cans of gas that would allow me to easily survive in place for at least a week after an earthquake even if my house became unlivable.
     
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    kenno eastern WA Active Member

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    This is the second, no third, near identicle post expressing this opinion this year and yet again it proves that PPL recognize what's comming but are so trapped by normalcy bias that they flip into a state of denial.
    Believe me Ironbar most Preppers are prepped for fire. I have 7 extinguishers as well as 100' of fire hose and a gas driven pump long with an outdoor water source.
    As for the Rest:
    "You can always eat the food You can always sell the ammo You can always have sex with the guns"
    .Business
    ‘Buy a Gun’ & ‘Keep Your Powder Dry’: Economists Warn of Looming ‘Economic 9/11′
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:22am by Becket Adams Print »Email »
    Comments (296)Left to Right: Harry Dent, Robert Prechte, & Gerald Celente

    Despite recent reports that the U.S. economy is “recovering” and that there are signs of economic growth, some analysts are less than thrilled with what they see in the near future. In fact, they’re downright scared.

    Harry Dent, author of “The Great Crash Ahead,” believes that the global debt bubble is going to burst and when it does, there will be a massive market crash. It should be noted that this is a revision of his earlier prediction that a crash would hit in 2012. He says he modified his forecast because the global central banks have been pumping the markets with so much money, stocks have been given a temporary boost. But he warns that as soon as the short-lived boost comes to an end, the crash will be hard.

    “This will be a repeat of 2008-09, only bigger, when it finally hits,” Dent told USA Today.

    Watch a discussion of this topic from Monday night’s broadcast of “Real News From The Blaze” by clicking here.

    Gerald Celente, a market analyst at the Trends Research Institute, believes Americans should brace themselves for what he calls an “economic 9/11.” He blames policymakers for their inability to solve the world’s financial and economic woes, according to the USA Today report.

    Once the meltdown hits, he says, it will lead to social upheaval, anti-government sentiment, a devalued U.S. dollar, and skyrocketing unemployment.

    “Celente won‘t rule out another financial panic that could spark enough fear to cause a run on the nation’s banks by depositors,” USA Today reports. “That risk could cause the government to invoke ‘economic martial law’ and call a ‘bank holiday’ and close banks as it did during the Great Depression.”


    “We see some kind of threat of that magnitude,” Celente said in a recent interview.

    Robert Prechter, author of “Conquer the Crash,” is being described as “still bearish.” Because he believes there is a frightening amount of similarities between today’s economy and the one preceding the Great Depression, he warns that America should brace for “1930s-style deflation.”

    “Prechter predicts that the major U.S. stock indexes, such as the Dow Jones industrials and Standard & Poor’s 500, will plunge below their bear market lows hit in March 2009 during the last financial crisis,” USA Today reports. “The brief recovery will fail as it did in the 1930s, he says.”

    What does this mean? Well, if Prechter is correct, stocks stand to lose more than half of their value.

    “The economic recovery has been weak, so the next downturn should generate bad news in a big way,” Prechter said in an e-mail interview. “For the third time in a dozen years, the stock market is in a very bearish position.”

    But what about all that “positive” economic news we keep hearing about?

    Take, for example, recent reports that the markets are rebounding. Many economists have noted that the markets are finally approaching pre-2008 levels.

    “Tech stocks in the Nasdaq composite are trading at levels last seen in 2000. Data on auto sales, manufacturing and consumer confidence have been firming. Job creation is also on the rise. The unemployment rate dipped to 8.3% in January, its lowest level in three years,” USA Today argues.

    Furthermore, economists and market analysts are updating their forecasts and predicting a hopeful and bright economic future. Some have even bet that the eurozone will stabilize.

    So why are Prechter, Celente, and Dent so worried?

    “Dent says the combination of aging Baby Boomers exiting their big spending years and a shift toward debt reduction and austerity around the world will cause the economy to suffer another severe leg down, making it more difficult for the government and Federal Reserve to avert a new meltdown,” USA Today reports.

    Celente, on the other hand, who has also been warning of economic disaster for years, believes that the national debt and “income inequality” has put the U.S. in a very dangerous place.

    He warns that bank runs, brought about by social unrest, will wreak sever economic havoc. He also warns that the current economic crisis could very easily transform into real violence. He believes the markets will be turned upside down by not only the eurozone crisis but also by an increase in oil prices due to the standoff between Iran and the West.

    “2012 is when many of the long-simmering socioeconomic and political trends that we have been forecasting and tracking will climax,” Celente wrote in his “Top 12 Trends 2012” newsletter.

    “When money stops flowing to the man on the street, blood starts flowing in the street,” he added in an interview.

    So, although some are economists are advising investors to jump back into the markets, these three analysts are warning that a different strategy is needed.

    “Get out of the way,” Dent advises.

    His solution? Buy short-term U.S. Treasury bills and the U.S. dollar, which will benefit from safe-haven cash flows. Forget stocks; they’ll fall in value.

    Celente advises investors to buy gold – it won’t lose its purchasing power when the dollar tanks. Also, he says, buy a gun to protect yourself from marauders in search of food and money. He also advises people to plan a getaway to places with “more stable finances and governments.”

    Prechter’s advice? Simple: keep your powder dry and buy when the economy starts to get out of hand.

    “When things get really scary, as in early 2009, I get bullish,” he said
     
  18. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    personally, living in the Pacific Northwest and in such a violently shaking area (possibly +9.0 earthquake at ANY time) being prepared isn't stupid - it's common sense...and yes, we also have fire extinguisher(s)....many of different type.
     
  19. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Me...oh and I have one in my car too. And a first aid kit at home and in the car in case you were wondering about that too. Prepping comes with a mindset to prepare for all kinds of dissasters.
     
  20. powersbj

    powersbj Seattle Area Active Member

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    Got it covered, also have chains, pump, jumper cables in the car. More often being prepped stops disasters from starting. everyone gets way to focused on teotwawki.