One-Percenters Gun Control Would Mean 'Handgun Registration' for Washington State

[Just Jim]

You get the government you vote for, better to vote smart.

 

[Norm0931]

You get the government you vote for, better to vote smart.

Incorrect, you get the government that the majority votes for and the president the part leadership decides on.

 

[Just Jim]

It isn't just the ballot box you vote on, it's your every day choices with your money and time.

 

[The B]

That Janet Reno quote is fake.

Source? As far as I can tell. But I'm hopeful someone, someday, will offer a credible source, since everyone insists on using it.

Edit: derp on me (your words were a link)

 

[PDXSparky]

Incorrect, you get the government that the majority votes for and the president the part leadership decides on.

I suggest that you are a bit off as well. You often get the government that big money supports.

 

[BoatRanch]

It always amazes me with all the gun owners that don't know that Wa currently registers all handgun transfers that that go through an FFL.
The law is here, part 9 a,b.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.110

Thank you for posting this.
Do you know if the ATF shares their 4473's with the state DOL (and visa-versa) or would that be illegal of them to do it?

 

[Belial]

It always amazes me with all the gun owners that don't know that Wa currently registers all handgun transfers that that go through an FFL.
The law is here, part 9 a,b.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.110

......and fill out a form in triplicate that has a lot of private information, sign their name, and hand it back without ever asking what happens or why they are filling it out.

They were clever in making the form an "Application" and not a "Registration" form...

 

[WasrNwarpaint]

On a side note.
That woman is hard to look at.

isnt it always some angry old bat pissed at the world trying to stop the fun or tell everyone whats good for them?

 

[Norm0931]

Sh

......and fill out a form in triplicate that has a lot of private information, sign their name, and hand it back without ever asking what happens or why they are filling it out.

They were clever in making the form an "Application" and not a "Registration" form...

Dealer keeps a copy, one goes to Sherriff's Dept, one goes to DoL.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

On a side note.

That woman is hard to look at.

That's a female?

A right delayed or restricted is a right denied

 

[Blitzkrieg]

That Janet Reno quote is fake.

OK, mr 5 posts

 

[Scott F]

If it passes my residency will change within the month. I will be pretty east to change my ccp in WA to non resident and my OR non resident to a resident permit.

 

[44mag2ndamend]

I believe that it is a whole trick to get one of the measures passed. 594/591 is a charade, you have to chose one or the other.

Either way you end up with more regulation, cannot believe most of the people do not see through this. Giving government more money in processes, legal beagle wit and banter, go hire an attorney, see if I am right.

Get both of those crappy laws a no vote!

 

[Belial]

I believe that it is a whole trick to get one of the measures passed. 594/591 is a charade, you have to chose one or the other.

Either way you end up with more regulation, cannot believe most of the people do not see through this. Giving government more money in processes, legal beagle wit and banter, go hire an attorney, see if I am right.

Get both of those crappy laws a no vote!

Care to elaborate why your against 591??

 

[Scott F]

Scratching my head on that one too.

 

[GunRightsCoalition]

I believe that it is a whole trick to get one of the measures passed. 594/591 is a charade, you have to chose one or the other.

Either way you end up with more regulation, cannot believe most of the people do not see through this. Giving government more money in processes, legal beagle wit and banter, go hire an attorney, see if I am right.

Get both of those crappy laws a no vote!

Actually there would be less regulation with I-591. Specifically the allowed wait period would be reduced from 5 days to 3 days. Anyone that seriously believes we will not at a minimum follow a national standard hasn't been paying attention as we already exceed it. Also if you read I-591 carefully it does not require that we follow a national standard. On the contrary it requires that we "not" follow any that is not. That may sound like the same thing but legally it is not. Let's go a step further though. If there is a national standard then either it is constitutional and we will be required to follow it regardless of I-591 or it is not and I-591 has no effect.

Oh, those that think I-591 would violate tenth amendment rights need to read and carefully consider the tenth amendment. It gives states and the people power over rights not specifically reserved. Go back to the second amendment and read it. That is a specifically reserved right and therefore the tenth amendment doesn't apply. The idea that the states should be able to regulate our inherent right is to say that it is not actually inherent but rather is a privilege reserved to the states rather than a right of the people.

 

[Scott F]

You nailed it. 541 is our friend.

 

[44mag2ndamend]

Care to elaborate why your against 591??

Read the constitution. Its really pretty simple, what our rights are.

I may not be that politically correct but more or revised state laws always lead to confusion among the general public. I like the simplicity of our constitution.

Then again I am in Oregon. I do not believe I need a state law to cover what is already in our constitution.

The media is hyping this to push a vote in an Liberal way.

 

[Scott F]

Still confused but I will let it go.

 

[BoatRanch]

And, as I understand it, with every transfer in Washington State there wil be a use tax collected by the Dept of Revenue.
If you look on the current WA. State Pistol Application, the FFL has to put their State UBI number on it. The only reason they need that is to monitor whether or not taxes have been collected by the FFL Holder doing the transfer.