NRA lobbies senators against open carry no detainment amendment

JYD911 · May 26, 2015

I find this truly disturbing, and i would hope the NRA explains itself. It has been reported that during a debate recess on the #opencarry bill, the NRA was in the halls urging senators not to vote in favor of an amendment that case law and the 4th circuit has already stated. The open carry of a firearm, in an open carry state, does not create or satisfy reasonable suspicion for a detainment, Just like when you are driving down the road, an officer can not pull you over for no reason.

"Mr Grisham stated that he was informed by a Senator that during a recess on Friday when HB 910 was being debated, the NRA & TSRA were in the halls trying to get Senators NOT to vote for an amendment that states that the open carry of a handgun, by itself, can not be a reason to stop someone and check for a permit."

http://junkyarddog911.blogspot.com/2015/05/nra-supposedly-lobbies-against-fourth.html

U201491 · May 26, 2015

Chris Cox explains it well.

U201491 · May 26, 2015

JYD911 said:
I find this truly disturbing, and i would hope the NRA explains itself. It has been reported that during a debate recess on the #opencarry bill, the NRA was in the halls urging senators not to vote in favor of an amendment that case law and the 4th circuit has already stated. The open carry of a firearm, in an open carry state, does not create or satisfy reasonable suspicion for a detainment, Just like when you are driving down the road, an officer can not pull you over for no reason.

"Mr Grisham stated that he was informed by a Senator that during a recess on Friday when HB 910 was being debated, the NRA & TSRA were in the halls trying to get Senators NOT to vote for an amendment that states that the open carry of a handgun, by itself, can not be a reason to stop someone and check for a permit."

http://junkyarddog911.blogspot.com/2015/05/nra-supposedly-lobbies-against-fourth.html

These stories are jumped on by the anti gun crowd and every left wing media outlet in the country to , as they always do, attack the NRA in every why possible and I find it pretty damned sad that supposed pro gun people help them propagate the anti NRA crap without doing real research before they do.
They are using you to play pocket pool and laughing out loud when pro gun people do these things. Its exactly why they put Bullcrap stories out there. [emoji53] [emoji109]

40calruler · May 26, 2015

Yep, read more than one story on an issue and you might be surprised how different details in each one are. We are kinda left to read every one and make up our mind that the truth is likely in the middle of all the garbage they try to feed.
If you want to deal with gun control your words will be twisted and turned to fit anti gunners story.

rick benjamin · May 26, 2015

Sure is an eye-catching headline, till you research a bit.

NRA Supposedly Lobbies Against The Fourth Amendment And Case Law In Texas

What fourth amendment? Perhaps the fourth amendment to Texas CSHB-910.

CSHB 910 - (consideration continued)
Amendment No. 4
Representative Canales offered the following amendment to
(house committee printing) as follows:
(1)ii
In SECTION 40 of the bill, in amended Section 30.05(f)(2)(B)(ii), Penal
Code (page 29, line 11), between "shoulder or belt holster" and the period,
insert the following: with at least one passive restraint and at least one active restraint
(2)ii
In SECTION 45 of the bill, in amended Section 46.02(a-1)(1), Penal
Code (page 32, line 16), between "holster" and the semicolon, insert the following:
with at least one passive restraint and at least one active restraint
(3)ii
In SECTION 47 of the bill, in amended Section 46.035(a), Penal Code,
strike the underlined language (page 33, lines 11-13) and substitute the following:
It is an exception to the application of this subsection that the license holder
carried a partially or wholly visible handgun in a shoulder or belt holster
with at least one passive restraint and at least one active restraint.
(4)ii
In SECTION 47 of the bill, in amended Section 46.035(b), Penal Code
(page 34, lines 3-4), strike "regardless of whether the handgun is concealed
or carried in a shoulder or belt holster," and substitute
"[regardless of whether the handgun is concealed,]".
(5)ii
In SECTION 47 of the bill, in amended Section 46.035(c), Penal Code
(page 34, line 27 through page 35, line 1),
strike "regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a shoulder or belt holster,"
and substitute "[regardless of whether the handgun is concealed,]".
(6)ii
In SECTION 47 of the bill, in amended Section 46.035(d), Penal Code (page 35, lines 4-6),
strike ", regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a shoulder or belt holster"
and substitute "[, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed]".
(7)ii
In SECTION 49 of the bill, in amended Section 46.15(b)(6)(B)(ii), Penal Code (page 39, line 12),
between "shoulder or belt holster" and the underlined semicolon,
insert the following: with at least one passive restraint and at least one active restraint
(S. Davis in the chair)
Representative Phillips moved to table Amendment No. 4.
The motion to table prevailed