No exemptions for law enforcment.

[powersbj]

If law enforcement exemptions were removed from all the various firearm restrictions, do you think that would act as a sort of fuse to sink the legislation. Sort of like making all laws apply to Congress?

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[awshoot]

If we the people are the government, the government should have the same as us. Otherwise, we aren't the government, we are the governed.

 

[User 1234]

We need the police unions to join forces with us. Otherwise you get California where the police unions donate money to anti gun politicians and the gun control laws all have exemptions for individual officer purchases.

 

[AMT]

We need the police unions to join forces with us. Otherwise you get California where the police unions donate money to anti gun politicians and the gun control laws all have exemptions for individual officer purchases.

Its not just the police unions in CA.....

 

[powersbj]

If these "weapons of war" are not needed by citizens then the police dont need them either after all their not the military. IDK, could totally back fire too, the nutty left may think its a good idea.

 

[titsonritz]

The Barrett effect: it's time to stop selling firearms to government agencies in California

 

[BSG 75]

If law enforcement exemptions were removed from all the various firearm restrictions...

How? How are you going to do that? The people who write those laws put those exemptions in because they believe only police can be trusted with "large capacity" magazines and modern semiauto rifles, and to make sure they will have the support of police for those laws, and for photo ops.



The only people who could remove those exemptions are the same people who put them in in the first place. It isn't going to happen.

 

[powersbj]

Voter initiative, or a rider by the repubs.

 

[Zathras]

Some number of police make money off private sales of handguns that otherwise could not be purchased by citizens. I don't know how common it is, but anytime you remove a 'perk', expect flak.

A couple of relevant articles about CA at least (been an issue there ever since the inception of the infamous DOJ roster of handguns)...

ATF Prosecution article
Concerns for LEO exemptions (a rare CalGuns' Combs agreement with Anti's)

 

[powersbj]

I think it's a weak spot in the anti argument is all. I dont think it will ever pass but it hamstrings the weapons of war assault weapons label and makes it a common use, personal defense issue. To me anything police have is common use.

 

[BSG 75]

Voter initiative, or a rider by the repubs.

It takes a lot of time and money to get an initiative on the ballot, and in Oregon it has no hope of passing even if you got it on the ballot. Who is going to vote for that? Republicans are generally pro-police and wouldn't want to restrict their equipment. People on the left think police are the only ones who should have that equipment so they wouldn't vote for it either.

The Republicans have almost no power in the Oregon legislature and no power to add "riders" to any bill. And Republican legislators are generally pro-police and wouldn't support additional restrictions on their firearms so they wouldn't want to add such a "rider". So again, never going to happen.

 

[powersbj]

Yeah its (for the most part) right wing virtue signaling but I do think fighting with everything you have at the ballot box is the way to go.

But then again maybe the point isnt to win or lose but to start the debate.

 

[cookie]

We need the police unions to join forces with us. Otherwise you get California where the police unions donate money to anti gun politicians and the gun control laws all have exemptions for individual officer purchases.

Unionized government employees are a crime gang against the taxpaying public. The word rape comes to mind.

 

[Knebel]

well i am 100% pro "if its banned for the regular person, no exceptions for police or military" that always bugged me.

 

[The Heretic]

How? How are you going to do that? The people who write those laws put those exemptions in because they believe only police can be trusted with "large capacity" magazines and modern semiauto rifles, and to make sure they will have the support of police for those laws, and for photo ops.

They put the exemptions in solely to keep the support of the police, both to pass it, and to enforce it.

The only people who could remove those exemptions are the same people who put them in in the first place. It isn't going to happen.

True that.

 

[BPOR11]

I think Feinstein is just tryin to get in soros's pants

 

[No_Regerts]

At least in WA, police exemptions to firearm laws has pretty much gone away. There are no exceptions for LE in any of the adopted initiatives. My twice-a-year weapons requals and monthly range days don't even count as "training" under I-1639.

 

[No_Regerts]

And LE isn't exempt to magazine capacity laws when off duty. When I travel, I have to make sure my magazines comply with local law.

 

[Diamondback]

And LE isn't exempt to magazine capacity laws when off duty. When I travel, I have to make sure my magazines comply with local law.

One good thing about the venerable single-stack 1911...

 

[No_Regerts]

One good thing about the venerable single-stack 1911...

You have a point. If I only get x number of bullets, they will be bigger ones.