News from Ukraine

[Longwalkhome]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Looks like Brandon wants to escalate

 

[arakboss]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Looks like Brandon wants to escalate

If they don't want to shut down the skies than at least let the Ukrainians have some fun up there too. Those Turkish drones can't be the greatest. The Chechens prevailed with much less tech and much much less support from the outside. If Russia is ultimately going to take over Ukraine, we should help make it as costly and as painful as possible for Putin and his followers.

 

[arakboss]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Looks like Brandon wants to escalate

Wow 15 points is a sharp slide in a 4300 point market.

 

[rdb241]

 

[arakboss]

It seems that Russian State Propaganda Personalities are not happy with the slow progress of taking over Ukraine. As a result some are resigning from their duties of misinforming the public.

Russia's state TV hit by stream of resignations - BBC News

Marina Ovsyannikova's protest highlighted a growing number of journalists leaving their jobs at Kremlin-run TV channels.

www.bbc.com

 

[loadzz]

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The least believable thing I've ever seen. Somehow the Ukrainian army has caused more materiel and manpower loss than 10 years for them in afghanistan? Deserves an actual lol. Ukrainian propaganda is so crazy.

 

[mhayd93]

The least believable thing I've ever seen. Somehow the Ukrainian army has caused more materiel and manpower loss than 10 years for them in afghanistan? Deserves an actual lol. Ukrainian propaganda is so crazy.

Independent observer estimates are in the 5000 troops killed range as an upper estimate. Obviously Ukraine is going to spin it the other way, as it is beneficial for them to do so.

However, I definitely wouldn't find that figure "unbelievable." Even at 5000 deaths, the Russians are on track to outpace their casualties from the Afghanistan War by a large margin!

 

[rdb241]

The least believable thing I've ever seen. Somehow the Ukrainian army has caused more materiel and manpower loss than 10 years for them in afghanistan? Deserves an actual lol. Ukrainian propaganda is so crazy.

"Brilliant"

 

[308]

Seems it's not only Americanos who love and adore their celebrities….

 

[Provincial]

Seems it's not only Americanos who love and adore their celebrities….
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Ponder this:

It seems clear that Zelenskyy is not favored by the current Russian government, so they didn't pull the strings to get him installed.

It seems safe to assume that Poroshenko was the favorite of the USA and Europe. We can assume that any corruption under his watch was condoned, or even encouraged by them.

Zelenskky comes out of the blue as a local favorite, and wins a surprising victory. He walks a tightrope between the two sides, and tries to clean up corruption as quickly as is practical.

Corrupt West wants him gone. Evil Putin wants him gone. China wants West and Russia to fight, while staying on the sidelines. Ukrainian people like him and want to be free.

Russia invades, thinking Ukraine will fold easily, but Ukrainians don't fold. Plan to reassemble the Soviet Union (and probably post-WWII empire) goes awry. Public around world rallies to support Ukrainian people (not just their government), powerful people in shadows fear they are losing control.

Does this sound like a great movie script, or what? Now, how to write a happy ending!

 

[Longwalkhome]

Read part of Putins latest speech and he seems adamant.

"What do I want to highlight? We must clearly understand that a new package of sanctions and restrictions against us would have followed in any eventuality. I want to emphasize this. For the West, our military operation in Ukraine is just a pretext for new sanctions. Yes, of course, they are now concentrated. But in the same way [the occasion] was for them, for Westerners, the referendum in Crimea, which, by the way, took place on March 16, 2014, exactly eight years ago, during which Crimeans and Sevastopol residents made their free choice - to be together with their historical homeland.



I repeat: it's just about reasons. But the policy of containment, weakening Russia, including through economic isolation, blockade, is a conscious, long-term strategy. The leaders of the West themselves no longer hide the fact that the sanctions are not directed against individuals or companies, their goal is to strike at our entire domestic economy, our social and humanitarian sphere, every family, every citizen of Russia.
In fact, such steps aimed at worsening the lives of millions of people have all the signs of aggression, war by economic, political, and informational means. It has a total, undisguised character, and, I repeat, the so-called Western political beau monde does not even hesitate to speak about it in plain text....



A massive attack has also been launched against Russia in cyberspace. An unprecedented information campaign has been unleashed, which involves global social networks and all Western media, the objectivity and independence of which turned out to be just a myth. Access to information is limited, people are stuffed with a huge number of fakes, propaganda forgeries, in other words, linden. It got to the point that one of the American social networks directly announced the possibility of publications calling for the murder of Russian citizens...


I want to be very frank: behind the hypocritical talk and today's actions of the so-called collective West, there are hostile geopolitical goals. They do not need, they simply do not need a strong and sovereign Russia, they will not forgive us either our independent course or the fact that we are defending our national interests."

 

[shibbershabber]

If they don't want to shut down the skies than at least let the Ukrainians have some fun up there too. Those Turkish drones can't be the greatest. The Chechens prevailed with much less tech and much much less support from the outside. If Russia is ultimately going to take over Ukraine, we should help make it as costly and as painful as possible for Putin and his followers.

The problem is, its ultimately going to be more costly for the Ukrainians.

More dead soldiers
More dead civilians
More infrastructure destroyed

Prolonging the inevitable doesnt hurt Russia.

Thanks to our weak/non-existent leadership that this war is happening at all.
It could have been prevented.

 

[308]

The problem is, its ultimately going to be more costly for the Ukrainians.


More infrastructure destroyed

Perfect opportunity for the world bank to step in with $$ created out of thin air and provide loans for rebuilding….for humanitarian reasons. Perhaps Halliburton can step in as well.

 

[shibbershabber]

Perfect opportunity for the world bank to step in with $$ created out of thin air and provide loans for rebuilding….for humanitarian reasons. Perhaps Halliburton can step in as well.

Lets be honest here.... Its likely 80% of it will be US tax dollars/printed money

 

[308]

Lets be honest here.... Its likely 80% of it will be US tax dollars/printed money

Interesting since I just saw a couple related memes today

 

[jblake00]

Lara Logan nailed it. So much History has been forgotten while society has sat around becoming fat and happy. There's still more details that aren't out about this whole mess.