New savage straight pull action rifles

[Boboclown]

Still waiting on the JAKL!

I'm still waiting on the AR that takes AK74 mags.

 

[Mecanik]

I'm still waiting on the AR that takes AK74 mags.

It begs the question why....

 

[Dinglenutz]

Never really cared for pumps

I learned on an old Winchester pump 22, and later Dad gave me his old Remington 31 pump 12ga, so maybe I have a thing for them, but to me they're fast and have a sort of retro cool thing. Something like an improved BLR would also be nice.

 

[The Heretic]

I have a BLR and yes it is nice. The Rossi 92 I got is smooth too - I gather that it can be hit or miss with those.

I learned technique with an old Marlin 22 with a long barrel and a missing magazine

 

[Boboclown]

It begs the question why....

I have more 5.56 AK mags than I do AR mags. Plus a BRN-180 upper using 5.56 AK mags would have somewhat similar manual of arms to the AK, as far as reloading goes.

 

[Mecanik]

LOL I'm sure engineers across the country are feverishly at their drawing boards attempting to build such an animal.....

 

[tac]

I'm sat here laffing my a$$ off reading some of the comments here.

Rollers and ball-bearings have been part of firearms design since the early 1930s - MG34 anybody? MG42, ring any bells? Still in service under a bunch of other hide-that-nazi-past designations, but still the same old in every way except calibre - mostly. As for the HK91, well, perhaps it's better known by its predecessor's name - the G3, service rifle to the Free World that DIDN'T choose the FAL, nor, of course the USA's M14. I can't download the almost hundred countries that used or still use the G3 - but here are a few of the a's and b's....

• Afghanistan: Iranian and Turkish-made G3s[24][25]
• Algeria: Police Special Operations Group, Parachute Commando Regiments.[26]
• Angola[27]
• Argentina: Grupo Halcón (Buenos Aires Police Special Operations Group)[28]
• Bahrain[27]
• Bangladesh: G3A3, G3A4 & G3/SG-1 variants are in service.[27][29]
• Belgium[citation needed]
• Bolivia[27]
• Botswana[30]
• Brunei[27]
• Burkina Faso:[27] French-made G3s[31]
• Burundi[27]
• Cameroon[27]
• Chad[27]
• Central African Republic[32]
• Chile[27]
• Colombia:[27] Originally in 1975, Heckler and Koch sold to Indumil the manufacturing license for the G3, the MP5 submachine gun, and the HK21 machine gun. Replaced in service by IMI Galil.
• Republic of Congo: Used by Cocoye militia during Congo Civil War[33]
• Côte d'Ivoire:[27] French-made G3s[31]
• Croatia[27]

Seems they trusted that off little pair of locking rollers not to kill them...

THE definitive military straight-pull has to be the Schmidt-Rubin and its successor, the K31. You can bet your last dollar that the Swiss weren't ever going to use a thing that didn't work as designed.

Straight-pull and proud of it - both mine get shot - a lot - and I'm not ashamed of them enough to hide them away, but they are plain-jane infantry rifles, not spiffy sniper variants.

But you can bet your a$$ that If I had the ZFK55 I'd be shooting the socks off it every chance I got.

 

[The Heretic]

Watching a youtube on some other straight pull rifles. Apparently some Blasers use "prongs" in a circle around the bolt head - looks similar to clutch fingers on some car clutches - and they are held in place by gas pressure too.

 

[3MTA3]

Man, oh man! I can't wait to go fully semi bolt action with one of those babies!

Truth is I have decades of muscle memory that will always try to operate a bolt action in the classic "lift and separate" motion, and I don't think I would ever feel confident that the round was fully in battery without lowering the handle and feel it lock in place.

 

[BigDog67]

Man, oh man! I can't wait to go fully semi bolt action with one of those babies!

Truth is I have decades of muscle memory that will always try to operate a bolt action in the classic "lift and separate" motion, and I don't think I would ever feel confident that the round was fully in battery without lowering the handle and feel it lock in place.

Just like trying to floor shift my wife's car after driving my truck.

 

[Beekeeping1341]

Looks like savage made a rifle fit for the new America that's coming

 

[Hal OPeridol]

Don't need to. I trust Austrians, Belgians, Germans, the Swiss, and the Russkies when it comes to designing things.

You forgot our northern neighbors, the Canadians and their Ross straight pulls. I have a nice sporter in .280 Ross. Very slick.

 

[po18guy]

Anschutz has made straight pull Biathlon rifles for decades. Izhmash has side-pull toggle actions. Scaled up, why not? In a lawyer-rich environment, it must be well-proved.

 

[The Heretic]

Give it a week or two of shooting for a few hours every day and I would get used to it. Just like when I rented a dozer, I got used to which pedals and hand controls to use after a couple of days.

 

[asiparks]

With the AR15 being so popular, I'm still not exactly understanding why no one hasn't made a straight pull similar to how the bolt actuates in an AR. A simple cam interacting with a point within the receiver to rotate the lugs seems so easy to do? True lugs on the bolt face would give me more sense of security than ball bearings.

Curiously enough, if you are a civvie and shoot an AR in the UK, it'll be a straight pull conversion.

 

[The Heretic]

 

[clearconscience]

I like the left/right handle switchoroo but I'm not sold on the design or if it might where out.

does it come in magnum cartridges?

 

[djharteloo]

Neat. I feel like I would rather have a rimfire straight pull rifle. Be interesting to see the price point.

 

[Koda]

I dont think its a big enough improvement over a traditional bolt action to warrent buying into it. If I was that concerned about speed, I would get a semiauto.

 

[Boboclown]

I dont think its a big enough improvement over a traditional bolt action to warrent buying into it. If I was that concerned about speed, I would get a semiauto.

Was the reason why it never caught on, it was expensive to make and was fast but not by a major margin for a single person. It would only make a big difference with more people with them, but they were expensive to manufacture so it didn't happen.

It would have been extremely expensive to outfit an entire military just to replace traditional bolt actions. By the time they could have been done cheaper, rifles like the FAL entered.

That this rifle is $1500 msrp and made by savage arms should be telling how expensive straight pulls are to make in comparison. Up until the 90s, most straight pulls were smallbore (.22 lr and other .22s).