Oregon New gun & mag purchaces in in Oregon.

[Rod Trout]

Ordered a couple of mags on Friday. Got mail today saying could not ship to Oregon. Thought that was pending? When searching web also said training is required before a gun purchase now? Please advise

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[solv3nt]

Harney County trial is going right now.

 

[Camelfilter]

... Please advise

Go to your local gunshop, purchase what you wish today. Because:

Harney County trial is going right now.

Note that the background check queue is increasing, so it is reasonable to assume you WON'T take a firearm home today. Current trend seems to be next day.

However as the week progresses, the queue might also increase.

 

[Member 53328]

Go to your local gun shop.

 

[Gbirk]

Just ordered some 20 round AK mags from Midway on 9/14 and they shipped without issue. Check around as some online retailers are better than others at keeping up with mag laws.

From my experience, Primary Arms, PSA, Midway, gunmagwarehouse and MagShack are all good about shipping to ban states up to the last possible minute.

 

[fmvolume86]

^ what they said

 

[Rod Trout]

Just ordered some 20 round AK mags from Midway on 9/14 and they shipped without issue. Check around as some online retailers are better than others at keeping up with mag laws.

From my experience, Primary Arms, PSA, Midway, gunmagwarehouse and MagShack are all good about shipping to ban states up to the last possible minute.

Just ordered some 20 round AK mags from Midway on 9/14 and they shipped without issue. Check around as some online retailers are better than others at keeping up with mag laws.

From my experience, Primary Arms, PSA, Midway, gunmagwarehouse and MagShack are all good about shipping to ban states up to the last possible minute.

Dawson Precision took my order for mags 2 days ago. Contacted today, said they can't ship to Oregon. Couldn't explain why..

 

[tdemore1743x]

Does M114 affect out of state sales too? I.E= being an Oregon resident and going to ID or MT for a rifle?

 

[ma96782]

Oh yeah....."Permit Papers" are needed to exercise ones 2nd A RIGHTS.



Aloha, Mark

PS.....Cliff notes for the uniformed (OR 114).

• The measure is a so-called permit-to-purchase gun law. Under Measure 114, anyone who wants to buy a gun would have to obtain a permit, pay an anticipated fee of $65, complete an approved firearms safety course at their own expense, submit a photo ID, be fingerprinted and pass a criminal background check.

More reading.....

Opponents of Measure 114 gun laws say case is about “individual rights” in trial opening

In opening statements Monday, lawyers for two people suing over Oregon’s new gun laws said Ballot Measure 114’s provisions are the “most significant threat to [the right to bear arms] Oregonians have faced in nearly 165 years.”

www.opb.org

 

[The Heretic]

Does M114 affect out of state sales too? I.E= being an Oregon resident and going to ID or MT for a rifle?

It can, yes:

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state?

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller's licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser's state of residence and the purchaser takes delivery of the firearm from the licensee in his or her state of residence.

In addition, a licensee may sell a rifle or shotgun to a person who is not a resident of the state where the licensee's business premises is located in an over–the–counter transaction, provided the transaction complies with state law in the state where the licensee is located and in the state where the purchaser resides.
[18 U.S.C. 922(b)(3); 27 CFR 478.99(a)]

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller’s licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser’s state of...

www.atf.gov

Whether an FFL will be diligent/informed enough to know about 114 and the ramifications depends on the FFL. I suspect those FFLs who live close to the borders with OR/WA will eventually be more diligent about interstate sales. The further away from OR/WA the less this may be an issue.

 

[tdemore1743x]

It can, yes:

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state?

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller's licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser's state of residence and the purchaser takes delivery of the firearm from the licensee in his or her state of residence.

In addition, a licensee may sell a rifle or shotgun to a person who is not a resident of the state where the licensee's business premises is located in an over–the–counter transaction, provided the transaction complies with state law in the state where the licensee is located and in the state where the purchaser resides.
[18 U.S.C. 922(b)(3); 27 CFR 478.99(a)]

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller’s licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser’s state of...

www.atf.gov

Whether an FFL will be diligent/informed enough to know about 114 and the ramifications depends on the FFL. I suspect those FFLs who live close to the borders with OR/WA will eventually be more diligent about interstate sales. The further away from OR/WA the less this may be an issue.

Thanks, planning on moving down there soon

 

[NWGlockgal]

Ordered a couple of mags on Friday. Got mail today saying could not ship to Oregon. Thought that was pending? When searching web also said training is required before a gun purchase now? Please advise

I have found a few places will not ship to Oregon but most of them still will.

 

[FireArm]

just ordered mags from PSA they shipped free shipping and on sale, glock Pmags

 

[ODG_Chad]

Bought a few >10 round mags from GunMagWarehouse yesterday and received the shipped notification today. They're still good to go!

 

[NWGlockgal]

Bought a few >10 round mags from GunMagWarehouse yesterday and received the shipped notification today. They're still good to go!

I did too...ordered on the 19th and supposed to arrive today. No issues at all.

 

[neverstop1977]

Does M114 affect out of state sales too? I.E= being an Oregon resident and going to ID or MT for a rifle?

You can walk into an ID retailer and get what you need, no questions asked. There is no ID needed to purchase Mags.

 

[Camelfilter]

Does M114 affect out of state sales too? I.E= being an Oregon resident and going to ID or MT for a rifle?

You can walk into an ID retailer and get what you need, no questions asked. There is no ID needed to purchase Mags.

When/if M114 goes into affect, it would be extremely unlikely any out of state FFL would wish to deal with Oregon residents in an over the counter sale of a long gun.

Most likely would be a hard nope, or perhaps an offer of shipping it to an in state FFL for the buyer to deal with once back home.

Sadly.

 

[zomie]

When/if M114 goes into affect, it would be extremely unlikely any out of state FFL would wish to deal with Oregon residents in an over the counter sale of a long gun.

Most likely would be a hard nope, or perhaps an offer of shipping it to an in state FFL for the buyer to deal with once back home.

Sadly.

This ... it would be like our FFLs dealing with a CA or WA resident ...

The ATF has a bible type book or dvd they offer FFLs to try to keep all of the state laws straight so they can respect the laws of the residence ... I can't imagine how they keep up these days.

 

[msgriff]

Oregonians at a gun store in Boise:

 

[Member 53328]

It will be beneficial to know people in Idaho/Montana/Nevada/Arizona if 114 takes effect.