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Media use of "Assault Rifle" vs real world semi-automatic AR15s

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by boogerhook, May 5, 2015.

  1. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I tend to get upset when the media uses the term "Assault Rifle" whenever a semi-automatic AR15 or an AK47 was used in a shooting. Mostly because the term is inaccurate. We all know civilian versions of these rifles do not have select fire capabilities. One question is whether full-auto and 3-shot-burst modes make these rifles a whole lot more powerful/deadly? In the context of mass-shootings probably not that much as the shooters don't encounter much resistance and full auto seems more a waste of ammo.

    Handguns are still at 75% of all mass shootings, and then we have 10% shot guns, 10% bolt action rifles, and only the remainder is semi-automatic rifles of any type.
     
  2. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    a assault rifle is a made up name by the antis. There is no such thing.
    Have you ever seen a rifle stamped on the receiver that said assault rifle? When I was in our rifles were stamped m16a1
    Just ask any anti to show you a pic of an assault rifle stamped on the reciever it will not happen.
     
  3. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Of course there are assault rifles. The name is not made up. Assault weapons is made up.

    Cars don't come labeled "car".
     
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  4. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    "Le-Car" was the name of an actual model of a car imported into the US.
     
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  5. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I stand corrected. Sorry I was all wrong.
     
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  6. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Actually you are wrong about that. Way back when Bushmaster made a rifle they called the "Assault Rifle" and it is stamped in the side.

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  7. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It frustrates me too, but they will never change. They attack us using very carefully selected terms that garner fear and other emotional responses from their voting base.

    Take a look at this photo from a story I ran across this morning titled "Is this the Most Insensitive Prom Picture Ever?":

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    They focus on both the flag and the guns. The flag showing, of course, according to the media, how very racist the people in the photo are (though I do see a rather dark skinned girl in the group, but we can gloss over that). But they also focus on the guns and their "serious firepower". So in one article, they've managed, very, very poorly, to tie the guns in with the rebel flag as being 'insensitive'.

    These people love to tell us what we should think. Some of us are smart enough to think for ourselves ;)
     
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  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think they call "logging boots" "baby stompers".. it's how they roll.
     
  9. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Does anybody know if the AK47s were full auto in the TX drawing contest? That would be interesting to find out.
     
  10. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    We still don't know if they had an AK. One gun was identified as a Kel-Tec Sub 2000. The other may have been an AR.

    What we do know is that the guns they had were legally owned, background check and all.
     
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  11. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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  12. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    You have two things to thank for the inaccurate use of the military term "Assault Rifle". If you remember back in the early 90's, the anti's Sarah and James Brady, Billyboy Clinton and the news media started to use that term to make things sound so much more terrible and serious. The liberal news media caught on and started a mass phycology campaign using this term. You tell a big enough lie to enough people enough times then it becomes the truth. We had that term pounded down our throats for several years back then. Under the US military definition of assault rifle, a semi only rifle does not fit that definition. But you heard the term almost every night on the news so it must be true, right? But, if I choose to, I can assault someone with a single shot .22lr derringer. just a little more confusion there.
    Not to get this thread off course. The very same campaign happened with the term "crack cocaine". In reality the drug crack is a synthetic man made drug with a recipe. It is manufactured with pre measured ingredients. Cocaine starts out from an actual plant grown higher than 3,000 ft in the mountains called the coca plant. Yes it has a recipe also but it starts life from a plant. Crack does not.
    You tell a big enough lie enough times to enough people, it must be true...........................................
    I have been telling people this for 20+ years and some people I tell this to think I am crazy. Because they hear every night on the news.
     
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  13. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    I dont know where you got that info but its wrong. Crack cocaine is made from cocaine. Crack is simply the oil based chemicals extracted out of the powder using heat and baking soda.
     
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  14. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    No you are wrong. People take cocaine and reduce it to it's purist form and it turns into small rocks. Then they smoke those rocks. That is called free basing. Crack NEVER starts out as a powder. It is a rock from square one. Then it is smoked like you would do free basing. That is where the confusion comes in. I do know what I am talking about because my sister in the mid 80's had a very serious cocaine problem. She would free base out her bedroom window while my dad was watching TV in the living room. To get cocaine to it purist form, you add some bleach and heat it up and then it turns into a rock. That is what gets out all the impurities they cut the cocaine with. I grew up in the late 70's and through the 80's. I have seen this on the street for myself. You just had the same reaction I get from other people. Plain and simple crack and cocaine are two different things all together. A crack rock has a yellow tint to it. They used to call it a cat piss color. A cocaine rock that has been reduced to it's purist form is a very bright and brilliant white.
    It is like ecstasy, That is the old MDMA love drug of the 70's.
     
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  15. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    All I know for sure is what the late Whitney Houston said: "crack is whack", which I believe was right before she took another hit ;)
     
  16. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    I suggest you try using this thing called Google?

    You're confused and misinformed
     
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  17. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    .. Thats not too bad.
    Manufacturers were and are out of touch with nomenclature.
    Marlin was calling magazines "Clips" up to two years ago with some of their rifles.
    I emailed them and they said they were seeking to change that.

    They may make firearms but dont know jack bubblegum about the culture/nomenclature. This is very common.
     
  18. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Crack is whack. She was not using Cocaine
     
  19. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    While that's true you got a remember these were manufactured back before the media head latched onto in vilified the term. In hindsight it was pretty stupid but at the time I'm sure it seem like genius
     
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  20. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    I amnot
    I am not misinformed. You sir are a perfect example of the mass phycology and you simply believe what the media tells you. I learned this first hand on the street growing up.