Oregon Measure 114 litigation

[olafberzerk]

I submitted my testimony. Mags shipped today from Brownells and Prepper Gun Shop.

 

[E4mafia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901708443372986747

View: https://x.com/TonyAielloJr/status/1901708443372986747?t=yc4_s0UPSz_5C4P5dTDbsw&s=19

 

[kmk1012]

You have to hit the Text radio button. That will open a text box. Enter your comment and Submit.

No option showed up like that, I had to go the PDF route in my Eder to type anything. All other options were dead, not functional. When I tried yesterday it wouldn't let me get that far. Probably an iPhone thing but who knows.

 

[Librarian]

No option showed up like that, I had to go the PDF route in my Eder to type anything. All other options were dead, not functional. When I tried yesterday it wouldn't let me get that far. Probably an iPhone thing but who knows.

Just tried it - works for me in Safari on iphone.

Computers are an especially tricky people.

 

[Rem700..300]

Listening to testimony now.

 

[Catbox]

I was late, but I still submitted the testymonies just now.

 

[oregunbob541]

Here's a link to the live hearing:

Oregon Legislative Video

olis.oregonlegislature.gov

 

[Mikej]

Here's a link to the live hearing:

Oregon Legislative Video

olis.oregonlegislature.gov

Like I want to hear what those mugs have to say about anything......

 

[Will_White]

Just making sure i understand the state of things:

IF the case isn't appealed, or it doesn't get an injunction, on April 16 standard capacity magazines are banned, but the permit to purchase doesn't go into effect until July 1 2026 if HB3075 is passed as it is, and non serialized firearms are already banned.

 

[Colt Carbine]

Perhaps this has already been discussed, not going to read this whole thread.

If 114 or 3075 becomes law, will we required to obtain a permit to purchase or complete the new training classes to renew our CHL in the future.

Sorry for the dumb question.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Perhaps this has already been discussed, not going to read this whole thread.

If 114 or 3075 becomes law, will we required to obtain a permit to purchase or complete the new training classes to renew our CHL in the future.

Sorry for the dumb question.

I don't think so? According to the 3075; proof of completing a CHL class or training for it, can replace the class/training requirements for permit to purchase, as long as within last 5 years of applying for permit? I don't recall seeing anything saying training for permit to purchase is required to renew or apply for CHLs. Edit, I also don't remember seeing anything requiring having a permit to purchase in order to apply for CHLs

 

[Omni]

Hearing just ended.

 

[Local Loader]

I don't think so? According to the 3075; proof of completing a CHL class or training for it, can replace the class/training requirements for permit to purchase, as long as within last 5 years of applying for permit? I don't recall seeing anything saying training for permit to purchase is required to renew or apply for CHLs. Edit, I also don't remember seeing anything requiring having a permit to purchase in order to apply for CHLs

Only until their full requirements are put in place, than the CHL does not qualify as a valid course unless it contains their additional requirements.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Only until their full requirements are put in place, than the CHL does not qualify as a valid course unless it contains their additional requirements.

Citation? Based on the introduced 3075, I don't see any requirement to have CHL training be as intensive as permit to purchase class/training?

 

[Local Loader]

Citation? Based on the introduced 3075, I don't see any requirement to have CHL training be as intensive as permit to purchase class/training?

It's further down the bill, it's part of the end date exception section. "A CHL Class shall not satisfy the permit to purchase requirements unless a live fire course is included and preformed by a law enforcement approved instructor"

 

[1911Fanatic]

9mm will still have all the advantages of cost, light recoil and weight of ammo even with reduced capacity. Lowered capacity laws seems like a weird reason to buy higher recoil, more expensive, harder on the gun cartridges...

We're not talking about bubbleguming around at the range here. I have a Beretta 92FS and M9A3. That hold 15 or 17 rounds in their respective magazines. That's a big gun to conceal anyway, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me when my full size, and Commander size, 1911's are so much less bulky.

I can get 7, 8, or 10 rounds in the gun, depending on the mag used. Why not shoot the more powerful cartridge with the bigger bullet if you are neutered down to ten rounds?

Also, if I want even more power, I have a 357 magnum revolver. Yes, even less shots, but you are only going to have to hit an assailant once, most likely, to make their attack stop.

 

[Stomper]

Also, if I want even more power, I have a 367 magnum revolver. Yes, even less shots, but you are only going to have to hit an assailant once, most likely, to make their attack stop.

Is a 367 magnum 10 more than a 357 magnum?

Just asking for a "friend"....

 

[kmk1012]

Asking for a friend here, IF this hot garbage get put into place due to failed appeal or other. IF a person were to just continue to carry standard cap mags and were stopped by leo, does the whole gun get confiscated or just the mag?

 

[TTSX]

We're not talking about bubbleguming around at the range here. I have a Beretta 92FS and M9A3. That hold 15 or 17 rounds in their respective magazines. That's a big gun to conceal anyway, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me when my full size, and Commander size, 1911's are so much less bulky.

I can get 7, 8, or 19 rounds in the gun, depending on the mag used. Why not shoot the more powerful cartridge with the bigger bullet if you are neutered down to ten rounds?

Also, if I want even more power, I have a 367 magnum revolver. Yes, even less shots, but you are only going to have to hit an assailant once, most likely, to make their attack stop.

Because I'm most hands, at most distances, in most circumstances, 9 is easier to shoot and will be more accurate than other cartridges due to the shootability

 

[1775usmc]

Asking for a friend here, IF this hot garbage get put into place due to failed appeal or other. IF a person were to just continue to carry standard cap mags and were stopped by leo, does the whole gun get confiscated or just the mag?

If it's properly concealed it won't matter. How is the cop gunna know you're carrying? You have the 4th Amendment.

With that being said if you have to use your firearm is a defense setting and it has a mag in it that holds more than 10 they will try and crucify you. Not like that isn't already on the table.

Risk vs. reward.

A "high capacity" mag is only a misdemeanor.