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The way these people think on this issue and others; they will harm themselves and their citizens in one way or another. Portland's deviant SE Hawthorne is a stunning example of the disordered social thinkers that have ruined their life.
 
"If nothing changes come the 16th mags over 10 rounds are illegal to purchase even if they were in the state before 2022, but you can keep and carry any mags you have legally (although they might be able to tack it on if you do something stupid and they can prove you bought it after 2022.)"

I believe Measure 114 also prohibited the use of 11+ mags for carry use.

I also believe retailers have been shipping 11+ mags to Oregon.
Yep that's right I read that part wrong. So really not confusing at all.

Also, up until the verdict came down last month, retailers were shipping mags. After the verdict came down that list has dwindled. I haven't checked the thread recently but PSA and a couple other sites wouldn't let me check out with 11+ mags. Gun Mag Warehouse was still good though (GMW is still shipping mags).
 
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Yep that's right I read that part wrong. So really not confusing at all.

Also, up until the verdict came down last month, retailers were shipping mags. After the verdict came down that list has dwindled. I haven't checked the thread recently but PSA and a couple other sites wouldn't let me check out with 11+ mags. Gunmagwarehouse was still good though.
Let's assume the Oregon Supreme Court decides to review the case and continues the hold on implementation of M114. Let's also assume that HB3075 passes and is signed into law before M114 is implemented. This is where confusion comes with handling of 11+ mags. As you suggested earlier the court would have to do something to be sure HB3075 was also put on hold. Would they?
My guess is the OSC won't take the decision under review but you never know.

Also Tony mentioned that even if the Oregon Supreme Court declines to review it, that it would take time for the trial court to do their thing. So either way M114 might not be implemented until after HB3075 becomes law. That to me leads to confusion when it comes to dealing with 11+ mags.
 
At one time, I was also an advocate for negotiating with the liberals and democrats. It took quite awhile of wasted time and discussions with my representatives, in their offices, to realize that they couldn't care less about what we think. To them, we are misguided children that simply have no concept of the real world. Since we're putting up a stiff resistance to their madness, they now openly call us racist and anti-semitic domestic terrorists. Of course, the anti-semitic name calling was before Hamas became the darling of the left.

We achieve noting by giving them anything, nor do we achieve anything with rational discussions. They simply don't care and have the agenda given to them by their handlers. Some will call this a harsh and unrealistic attitude, but unfortunately, it's the reality in which we live.

Our God given rights mean nothing to them and frankly, they hate us since we won't roll over and go away. You see it in the hearings and in their offices. To them, we are the enemy that is preventing them from satisfying their egos, contributors, and resume building stats.
As long as I'm contributing to their tax burdens, my voice won't be silenced. I can be a royal pain in anyone's @$$ if pushed far enough. They want me to go away, my tax dollars go with me...end of story.
 
Hey, I have a question. Since 114 has not gone into effect, could the state be challenged over the magazines that were purchased post 2022 since the law was not put into play?
As far as I understand, 114 technically went into play back when it "passed" but the enforcement of it has been on hold due to a restraining order due to the injunction. Therefore, anyone who bought magazines since then (or were acquired with a gun purchase), technically will be breaking an already existing law. It's such a bunch of BS, I don't think I've ever seen a law so Fd up in how it spells out.

Again this is only what I've heard but I've also heard it's not over yet. I just haven't much faith left.
 
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I am leaving in June and this is one of if not the biggest reasons. Even if this doesn't pass, they will try again and again till they get what they want. Sick of the communist west coast.
Me too eventually. Not even just over this but because they want to make the state as unlivable as possible. Keep raising taxes, more woke classrooms with the lowest rated education in the country, not enforcing actual criminal punishment, homeless problems being pushed to our doorsteps, etc. Just keeps getting worse. It only seems normal in the bubble we create for ourselves here. With that said, NWFA has always given me a glimmer of hope where I couldn't seem to find it elsewhere and I thank you all for that.
 
As far as I understand, 114 technically went into play back when it "passed" but the enforcement of it has been on hold due to a restraining order due to the injunction. Therefore, anyone who bought magazines since then (or were acquired with a gun purchase), technically will be breaking an already existing law. It's such a bunch of BS, I don't think I've ever seen a law so Fd up in how it spells out.

Again this is only what I've heard but I've also heard it's not over yet. I just haven't much faith left.
Technically, only people who do not destroy their magazines once the law goes into affect would be breaking the law.

Not people who bought them since whatever made up date in 2022. Since the law wasn't in affect, and it's a possession law.

Oh, & who's tracking all of these unserialized untraceable purchases anyways...
 
Technically, only people who do not destroy their magazines once the law goes into affect would be breaking the law.

Not people who bought them since whatever made up date in 2022. Since the law wasn't in affect, and it's a possession law.

Oh, & who's tracking all of these unserialized untraceable purchases anyways...
Yeah see there it is. We don't know what to believe because it's such a mess. I've heard the law was already in effect but the injunction stopped enforcement. But then that means they allowed gun shops to legally sell (transfer) illegal items. Makes no sense. I can only hope they'll enforce this law as well as they enforce real crimes in Oregon, then we'd be in the clear. But I'm sure they'll work a lot harder on us.
 
Yeah see there it is. We don't know what to believe because it's such a mess. I've heard the law was already in effect but the injunction stopped enforcement. But then that means they allowed gun shops to legally sell (transfer) illegal items. Makes no sense. I can only hope they'll enforce this law as well as they enforce real crimes in Oregon, then we'd be in the clear. But I'm sure they'll work a lot harder on us.
Come on guys, we've been through this about a hundred times.
 
Mag restrictions are immediate upon being signed into law.

Some believed it was married to M114 and would not go into effect before M114 did. The courts haven't addressed HB3075 yet, as far as I know.
Why would the courts address a bill that is not yet law? Besides, the courts have nothing to do with it until and unless someone brings a lawsuit.
 
Come on guys, we've been through this about a hundred times.
And they ain't gonna stop until either thing happens

Court upholds M114/3075

Court don't take up case, punt it back to trial court to "adjust" according to court of appeals opinion

Hb3075 passes and court says M114 lawsuits moot and dismissed, even if it's actually the same bleeping thing
 
That is correct it doesn't fix anything other than letting a bunch of ungrateful a$$ holes win. There comes a time when one shall stand to fight and ones that shall run.
With the large exodus of their tax base from places like California and NY, the crazy didn't stop but it is harder to finance. Even Newsome has pretended to talk rational in public. Ok, he's outright lied about not saying somethings.

Bills like 114 in itself won't make me leave but they give me no incentive to stay, either. I do believe from around 2014 or so the gun community in the PNW have been taking a lot of losses. We refuse to partner or alley with other larger groups.

Groups that should naturally be drawn to the positives of gun ownership like synagogues or women's shelters. Laugh if you like but just this weekend in Forest Grove there was a gathering of 100 people waving signs with 100 different messages. Mostly alluding to anti Trump/Musk, but they were there.
 
Sportsman in Albany was extremely busy tonight. Probably 8 to 10 people. Saw 1 person walk out with 3 rifles. More guns than I have seen in that store in a long time.
DIsclaimer: first time in the store since early January because of health issues.
 
Technically, only people who do not destroy their magazines once the law goes into affect would be breaking the law.

Not people who bought them since whatever made up date in 2022. Since the law wasn't in affect, and it's a possession law.

Oh, & who's tracking all of these unserialized untraceable purchases anyways...
You don't have to destroy them but you can't use them outside of your house, a shooting range (how dispersed shooting is affected I don't know), or in an organized competition.
 
Let's assume the Oregon Supreme Court decides to review the case and continues the hold on implementation of M114. Let's also assume that HB3075 passes and is signed into law before M114 is implemented. This is where confusion comes with handling of 11+ mags. As you suggested earlier the court would have to do something to be sure HB3075 was also put on hold. Would they?
My guess is the OSC won't take the decision under review but you never know.

Also Tony mentioned that even if the Oregon Supreme Court declines to review it, that it would take time for the trial court to do their thing. So either way M114 might not be implemented until after HB3075 becomes law. That to me leads to confusion when it comes to dealing with 11+ mags.
Look at Tony;s post on the preceding page. I also thought that there was some language that doesn't make people criminals if they bought a mag after December 0f2022.
 

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