OK time has come I need a new hunting coat. I hunt Blacktail Western Oregon so not real cold but possibly pretty wet. I hunt in mixed country Grass fields, Oak Groves, Fir Timber, Christmas tree farms, So what camo pattern is really never going to be a match. I'm not a small or skinny guy I got a 54" chest. I would rather be able to layer then use the coat as sole warmth. I tend to operate much better when on the cool side then when over heated. I been looking at a good old M65 Army Field Jacket in OD green. But they aren't really even water resistant (not in Oregon anyway) So something cut similar. More pockets a plus And now the big problem the Budget Hoping to keep this under $100.00 Since the wife is going to get it for my birthday.