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Lions, Tigers and Bear - oh my!

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by The Heretic, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Have you considered what would happen to zoos, wildlife "safaris"/et. al., and "sanctuaries"/rescue centers/etc., if we get hit by something like the Cascadian Subduction Zone earthquake?

    Elephants
    Rhinos
    Tigers
    Leopards
    Lions (both African and cougars)
    Bears - polar and brown
    Cheetah
    Hippos (the most dangerous animal in Africa - more people are killed by hippos than lions)
    etc.

    Then there are all the feral dogs.

    Of course, humans are still the most dangerous, with only feral/abandoned dogs rivaling them in numbers.

    But there are a number of places that have wildlife in them that we are not used to, that are not afraid of humans due to being cared for by humans, who might escape in one way or another, should we get hit by "the big one".
     
  2. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    There would be a run on Big Game Ammo?
     
  3. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What kind of 556 ammo would you buy for an 600 pound 10 foot long tiger?

    For 900 pound polar bear?

    These are large apex predators.
     
  4. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    I like a lot of M855. Got to go for penetration and buy some time.
     
  5. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    ALOT?
    Seriously, polar bears won't get far, their organs are worth a fortune! Big cats are dangerous but even a 12 GA slug will break em down plenty fast. The African Buffs and assorted antelope will cause as much collective damage because PPL will try to pet them, not take them as the danger they are, heck primates are a huge danger The males will rip your gonads off and eat your face.
     
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  6. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    I don't fear any animal as much as I fear the wild jackasses that might escape from Salem!!!!

    Sheldon
     
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  7. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Humans are definitely the most dangerous, but don't require big caliber firearms.
     
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  8. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    A 12ga slug would be my go to.

    Honestly, though even some warning shots from a smaller caliber would most likely startle any large normally caged animals into running the other way IMO.
     
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  9. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I was watching one of those Alaska Adventure shows a while back and to my surprise one of the natives dropped a grizzly in his tracks using an AR15 (assault rifle with a 30calibermagazineclip)
     
  10. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Otto Skorzeny tells a story of tiger that was running loose during the German drive thru Belgium in 1940.
    He ended up shooting the tiger after a terrified baker reported the tiger to be in his shop.
    Andy
     
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  11. tac

    tac UK, Oregon and Ontario. Well-Known Member

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    And armed with rifles, they are going to be even more dangerous.

    Lucky for me I'm not an apex, right?

    tac
     
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  12. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Jim Corbett hunted man-eating tigers using the .275 Rigby (aka 7mm Mauser).
     
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  13. tac

    tac UK, Oregon and Ontario. Well-Known Member

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    Yup, just like this one...

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    It lived in Rhodesia between 1913 and 1990...it, too, is in 7x57 Mauser.

    It points like a good shotgun, and is instant death on charging bloons. Weighs in at just 6 lbs 9 ounces, so it's a mite lively with full loads of 175gr FMJs.

    tac
     
  14. nwwoodsman

    nwwoodsman Vernonia Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    This should be moved to the hunting section. Hopefully there's are still taxidermist when the shtf.
     
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  15. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    My M-70 Super Grade has the same stock, and yes, they do point like magic. When shooting against real dangerous game one never feels the recoilo_O
     
  16. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm surprised Skorzeny didn't just go in and kick the big cats azz!
     
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  17. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well... best I'll be able to do is dig out the Remington .30-06 180gr, RNSP, supply.
    Or, 12ga slugs.
    Or, M-1A w/20rnd mags!:cool:
     
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  18. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    The 220 SP has never failed to impress me, it was designed moose/big bear, and larger; the sectional density and bullet weight makes it a bone breaker/heart taker
     
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  19. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I have a story about that....and crocks
     
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  20. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ROFLMAO what makes you think I even own a firearm that uses 5.56mm? Granted my 30-06 and .35 Whelen would be marginal on some of the African animals but both have taken all of them. And since it wouldn't be a sporting event I would have no trouble dumping a clip from the M1 Garand into any big critter that might eat me.

    As to Hippos I think you would find the people they kill tend to be in the water.

    Around here a Hippo in the water is going to be one hurting critter they aren't set up for 50 degree water.

    The big cats would be the most trouble. Even zoo raised animals which almost all of them would be can half assed hunt.

    Elephants eat grass and trees
    Hippos eat water plants
     
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