Learned a lesson today.

[Stomper]

The last "unknown to me" females to come knocking on my door were JH Witnesses and they were young and hot. I scared them off though.

That happens about once every 5 years.

You answered the door with no pants on again.... didn't you?

 

[Stomper]

I carried every waking hour for so long it'd be foreign for me not to be armed...at home or away.

TRUE!

It'd be like missing a testicle and always either veering off to the one side, or going in circles while walking because of the load imbalance.

 

[revjen45]

Many moons ago I heard a knock at the door, and expecting it to be some of my socially alternative motorcycle enthusiast friends (yeah, I know. I wouldn't do it now) I opened the door a crack, stuck the muzzle through the crack and laughed maniacally. Upon opening the door I beheld 2 JWs who looked old enough to have fished for trilobites. Ooops!
Like I said I wouldn't do that now, but answering the door naked wearing fuzzy bunny slippers has a certain cachet.

 

[jimmeh]

As the saying goes:

"I would rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it."
Me (as far as I know)

When we lived in RI this happened down the road in the next town. Dude just walked out of the woods while this man was working in his yard and attacked him. This article doesn't go into detail but it was a vicious attack that continued even after the man was dead with yard implements.. As far as I'm concerned, always be prepared.

Kitchen Call: Ice cream a homemade treat

If summer has truly begun, ice cream is on everybody’s mind. In my little town this past weekend all three major ice cream outlets — the kind that scoop — were lines of giggling kids led by parents a…

www.providencejournal.com

Good story. Stories like these is the reason I carry.

 

[jimmeh]

I was threatened on my own property by an out control unknown to me female looking to kick another unknown females azz and mine. My neighbor called 911 and all we got was a call about an hour later. I am 73 years old and usually carry an LCR9 but I went out to the shop, remembered I didn't bring it and didn't go get it. So I am not going to be lazy and not go get it again.

I'm curious...How would a gun have changed the outcome?

I would never show my firearm to anyone in any kind of confrontation. It's your job to GTFO of the situation. If it needs to be pulled out, it needs to be used. And if it needs to be used, the person should never report having seen it, only of having heard the shots.

A gun should never be pulled on someone just because they are yelling at you.

 

[Caveman Jim]

If I'm out the door I'm armed, even with shorts on... Glad nothing bad happened Sir.
I'm not afraid of nothing, I'm just prepared for anything.

 

[Caveman Jim]

It's your job to GTFO of the situation.

FALSE! In Washington we do not have a duty to retreat, look it up.

 

[American123]

I'm curious...How would a gun have changed the outcome?

I would never show my firearm to anyone in any kind of confrontation. It's your job to GTFO of the situation. If it needs to be pulled out, it needs to be used. And if it needs to be used, the person should never report having seen it, only of having heard the shots.

A gun should never be pulled on someone just because they are yelling at you.

It seemed very clear based on the OP that they were happy it ended without violence, however, the experienced taught them (helped remind them) that they aren't guaranteed to be free from harm even in their own yard and that they felt in hindsight they were unprepared should the situation have escalated.

Considering there are many instances where a pulled firearm can immediately alter the course of events as the would be attacker in many cases changes their mind, there are instances where pulling (but not pointing) prior to attack can make a positive impact on the outcome of events. I've experienced this personally and so have many other Americans ever year.

 

[jimmeh]

FALSE! In Washington we do not have a duty to retreat, look it up.

I meant moral duty, not legal duty, Jim.

It seemed very clear based on the OP that they were happy it ended without violence, however, the experienced taught them (helped remind them) that they aren't guaranteed to be free from harm even in their own yard and that they felt in hindsight they were unprepared should the situation have escalated.

Considering there are many instances where a pulled firearm can immediately alter the course of events as the would be attacker in many cases changes their mind, there are instances where pulling (but not pointing) prior to attack can make a positive impact on the outcome of events. I've experienced this personally and so have many other Americans ever year.

I believe it. Good perspective. And your point is not lost on me. Thank you!

OTOH, I've read and seen videos of a weapon being brandished and a stupid, drunk, or stupidly drunk person suddenly is emboldened and it escalates with someone dead and even the armed person hurt or killed, too.

I still think it best and the duty for me to GTFO and leave the situation when possible. I wasn't always of that mindset, but I am now.
We're only getting one side of the OP's story anyways.

 

[American123]

I meant morale duty, not legal duty, Jim.



I believe it. Good perspective. And your point is not lost on me. Thank you!

OTOH, I've read and seen videos of a weapon being brandished and a stupid, drunk, or stupidly drunk person suddenly is emboldened and it escalates with someone dead and even the armed person hurt or killed, too.

I still think it best and the duty for me to GTFO and leave the situation when possible. I wasn't always of that mindset, but I am now.
We're only getting one side of the OP's story anyways.

Too many variables to make a one size fits all assessment, but there are instances where it would not yet meet the definition of legal self defense shoot, however sufficient circumstances show a credible threat very close to taking place, clearing the holster and holding at a low ready could change the mind of the aggressor and how they wanted the next decision to go down. If this is a situation where a drunk is emboldened by the presence of a gun and initiates the attack based on that, then I say Darwinism, and if in that instance the victim is hurt or killed in the process then I say they should have shot better, sooner, more, and more accurately.

As people coexisting on this planet, we have a reasonable expectation of safety. Example: I am not enacting violence on anyone else so therefore no one should be trying to enact violence on me. The moment that societal 'contract' is broken, that's why good people shoot bad people.

 

[TitanTwo01]

I live in the county on gated property. If the gate is open, I am carrying. No exceptions for exactly the reasons above.

 

[revjen45]

"A gun should never be pulled on someone just because they are yelling at you."

Squirting an obstreperous trespasser with a garden hose is pretty low on the continuum of force.

 

[jimmeh]

"A gun should never be pulled on someone just because they are yelling at you."

Squirting an obstreperous trespasser with a garden hose is pretty low on the continuum of force.

Haha. This'n, I like! Good one.

 

[wjv]

Did you forget to put your pants on?

We've told him a dozen times. . . Put your pants on BEFORE answering the door. . . .

 

[DevonShyre]

We've told him a dozen times. . . Put your pants on BEFORE answering the door. . . .

That takes the fun out of it.

 

[bigbearbear]

Handgun? On your own property? Nah....just do what Clint Eastwood does.

 

[revjen45]

"I always carry a PMR30 when working in the yard or mowing, not just for intruders but for those pesky moles that seem to pop up right after I mow... and yes I live in the country..."

How do you get them to surface? When I mow they stay out of sight. I'm absolutely sure that our brace of pest control specialists (the Dynamic Duo of Wonder Cats, Max R. Panther and Princess Maia) would pounce on moles with the same glee as the other stuff they kill.

 

[nwlead]

yeah, i carry everywhere-anywhere in or around house-if they tell me i can't bring my friends to defend myself, i'm reluctant to even show up there

 

[Goosebrown]

Pants on = gun on.

Pants on. Gun in. Pistol on.

 

[CoastRange57]

The tiny .380 in the pocket all the time is better than the cannon left at home. Luck favors the prepared.

This. I have a Tarus LCP .380 that gets dropped in the back pocket or on a belt holster every day. Even if I am not leaving my fenced and gated 2 acres 480 feet off the main road.

Not in my current location but back in the valley tweakers walking down the road and deciding to rip off your shop or machine shed even in remote areas was routine. A tweaker broke into my shop at 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon with my wife working in the garden 50 feet away.

Bad sh*t happens every day even on your own property.