JD Vance SOLID on the Second Amendment

[3MTA3]

JD Vance scores 100% per GOA. Win or lose this fall we have at least one politician we can rely on. Hope this bodes well for the future.

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[nwslopoke]

I hope so. My one time through Ohio did reveal a strong gun culture and good people all around.

 

[arakboss]

That's good so he can break the tie votes in the Senate?

 

[3MTA3]

That's good so he can break the tie votes in the Senate?

Also hopefully prevent another knee jerk bumpstock type ban from the White House. Perhaps it also signals that Trump is firmer in his commitment to our 2A rights as well.

 

[arakboss]

Also hopefully prevent another knee jerk bumpstock type ban from the White House. Perhaps it also signals that Trump is firmer in his commitment to our 2A rights as well.

Let's hope so.

Hopefully we won't have to worry about this Dbag anymore either.

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[Yarome]

Also hopefully prevent another knee jerk bumpstock type ban from the White House. Perhaps it also signals that Trump is firmer in his commitment to our 2A rights as well.

This.

Things may have been quite different in that situation if he had someone pro-2A in his immediate circle to act as a sounding board of reason... vs... a room full of quasi-anti's advising him to "squash them".

JD seems 2A solid more recently, but there was a time not long ago he was on the red flag bandwagon. We'll see how it plays, won't we!

 

[Bacchus]

I regard the 2A as the most important because once you lose it you'll never get it back. The other Amendments you can get back as long as you have the Second.

 

[raftman]

What's more, Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney don't like him so he's probably doing something right.

But to stick more to the point, a genuinely pro-2A person in the executive branch could be a blessing the 2A community may not even fully appreciate because it has basically never happened before… at least not in many decades. The best we've had were those who paid lip service (like Reagan or Bush Jr) but ultimately either sold out, or at least displayed a willingness to, and of course, at worst we've had openly hostile types like Clinton or Biden.

 

[The Heretic]

JD seems 2A solid more recently, but there was a time not long ago he was on the red flag bandwagon. We'll see how it plays, won't we!

And Reddit seems to think he supported the bump stock ban. I haven't dug into his history yet, but one thing I have noticed over the decades is that you can't really trust most politicians, especially those who have a history of going "with the flow" - they are not supporting or opposing something because of any ideal or principle other than voter polls and saying whatever it takes to get elected.

 

[Yarome]

I haven't dug into his history yet, but one thing I have noticed over the decades is that you can't really trust most politicians, especially those who have a history of going "with the flow" - they are not supporting or opposing something because of any ideal or principle other than voter polls and saying whatever it takes to get elected.

Yeah. The difficulty with him too is that his political career is so limited. His entire position/voting history is really limited to his position as junior senator since 2022.

That's not all bad though since he hasn't been in for so long and been "institutionalized". Fresh blood could go either way, but personally, I'm getting a little tired of career politicians and always having the only choice of having to choose between the lesser of two evils.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Perhaps a good time for a federal constitutional carry?

 

[BlindedByScience]

Best case is JD can provide some education to folks that mean well but don't understand modern weapons. As we know, they vote on stuff they have little to no knowledge about, scary as that is. A well informed, pro 2A guy can be a tremendous asset if he's the orator that they say he is. Hey, we can hope.....

 

[WAYNO]

OFF will get a hold of all this, tell us neither Trump or the new VP choice are good enough, tell us to vote for neither, and the anti's will remain in control.

 

[Old Dog]

I haven't dug into his history yet,

His MOS was combat correspondent - journalist (like Joker in Full Metal Jacket). I knew many of these guys over the years, and typically, they seemed to be, as a rule, a lot more politically liberal than the other servicemembers, especially grunts. Strangely, it appears he may have been at Al Asad as the same time I was (on my very last deployment). And even more strangely, it appears he went out on civil affairs missions during the same period I did. In any case, I do respect anyone who graduates USMC boot camp, honorably completes his full enlistment and speaks with pride about his service.

Vance seems to have quickly evolved, for sure, from a "never-Trumper" to staunch MAGA guy. But his explanation about this when interviewed by Hannity at the RNC was interesting, though he never directly responded to Hannity's question about his position on the 2A.

We'll see (hopefully).

 

[The Heretic]

Vance seems to have quickly evolved, for sure, from a "never-Trumper" to staunch MAGA guy. But his explanation about this when interviewed by Hannity at the RNC was interesting, though he never directly responded to Hannity's question about his position on the 2A.

That doesn't make me feel any better. For one thing, as most people here know, I am indeed a "never Trumper", and someone who evolves from that to be a supporter of Trump makes me question their principles/integrity.

Then the typical politician practice of evading a question gives me no confidence in their integrity. I understand that to be elected in these times is dependent on that ability (to evade being honest), but that doesn't make me like them.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Perhaps a good time for a federal constitutional carry?

The Equal Protection Clause should have stopped the patchwork of State carry laws when it started

 

[Old Dog]

That doesn't make me feel any better. For one thing, as most people here know, I am indeed a "never Trumper", and someone who evolves from that to be a supporter of Trump makes me question their principles/integrity.

Then the typical politician practice of evading a question gives me no confidence in their integrity. I understand that to be elected in these times is dependent on that ability (to evade being honest), but that doesn't make me like them.

Yes, exactly why I made my observations. We can't just accept a politician's statement that he (or she) supports the 2nd Amendment when that person's history raises any questions. The first thing my wife said after Hannity's last question, and Vance's responses, was "He never answered the question about the 2nd Amendment."

 

[bionic knees]

I am quite surprised that DJT picked him, it wasn't all that long ago that JD didn't have a single good thing to say about Trump.

 

[coltemp]

I am quite surprised that DJT picked him, it wasn't all that long ago that JD didn't have a single good thing to say about Trump.

Which in some ways a good thing.

This helps trump win over some of the more never Trumpers who I think are generally being dumb. When you have two candidates you don't like (which happens a lot) it is your duty to vote for the one who is the least likely to do permanent damage to the culture and institutions. Too many of the silly never trumpers sat at home in 2020 and look what it got us. 4 years of a dodding old fool, a dangerous position in the world, an economy on the rocks and going nowhere, and everyone feeling more pessimistic about the future.

Also, Vance was one of those, like I was who did not support Trump in 2016, thought he would be a disaster and that there were better candidates, BUT who got to know Trump more, saw what he did in office (some of which was very good and some not so good), and came to the conclusion that while I could have wished for more overall he was a much better president than expected and exposed a lot of the rot in Washington.

The fact that you have a sounding board in your admin is a good thing. Hopefully this works out better than Pence proved to be.

 

[raftman]

Yes, exactly why I made my observations. We can't just accept a politician's statement that he (or she) supports the 2nd Amendment when that person's history raises any questions. The first thing my wife said after Hannity's last question, and Vance's responses, was "He never answered the question about the 2nd Amendment."

This is true, but what it boils down is that the choice is between someone who says they're pro-2A but may or may not actually be, and someone actively hostile towards it.