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Whats up with all trumps anti-gun threats in the last year? Specially today? He must be fishing for re election votes, hes gone half liberal on us lately!! Im about to peel off my trump stickers, hes embarassing me.

So....

Which of these alternatives are you going to vote for instead? Please do tell which one you prefer over Trump and why they would be better for gun owners.

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Whats up with all trumps anti-gun threats in the last year? Specially today? He must be fishing for re election votes, hes gone half liberal on us lately!! Im about to peel off my trump stickers, hes embarassing me.

It's all going according to plan.

Put a demagogue in the White House to incite violence. Then when some crazy follows thru, it is an excuse to put gun control in place. Why didn't I see this before?
 
Trumps a smart dude. There is a massive population of moderate liberal voters in the US. Trump has played his cards right and has practically decimated the DNC and all of their candidates by getting them to do it to themselves. Hes now attempting to appeal to that massive swath of liberal voters who can no longer justify voting for the identity politics anti american democrat party. Alot of people who voted obama, voted trump. Bernie bros as well. He also fully understands that firearm owners are an insignificant voting demographic. The economy is doing well and middle class americans wont want to screw that up by voting for socialists. So in short, were no longer important, hes won the middle class, and is now trying to win over moderate liberals. All the anti gun politics in the world, hed still probably win in a landslide.
Oh and LOL at ANY conservative who thinks they got a shot at battling trump for president.
Were old news folks, were immaterial.
 
Trumps a smart dude. There is a massive population of moderate liberal voters in the US. Trump has played his cards right and has practically decimated the DNC and all of their candidates by getting them to do it to themselves. Hes now attempting to appeal to that massive swath of liberal voters who can no longer justify voting for the identity politics anti american democrat party. Alot of people who voted obama, voted trump. Bernie bros as well. He also fully understands that firearm owners are an insignificant voting demographic. The economy is doing well and middle class americans wont want to screw that up by voting for socialists. So in short, were no longer important, hes won the middle class, and is now trying to win over moderate liberals. All the anti gun politics in the world, hed still probably win in a landslide.
Oh and LOL at ANY conservative who thinks they got a shot at battling trump for president.
Were old news folks, were immaterial.


Doesn't make it right, or moral, or what is best for the country, or freedom.

Just makes the tree a little drier.
 
Im sure once this all blows over trump will go back to raising hell about the illegals, hes just taking advantage of the opportunity to gain a few liberal votes.
 
Im sure once this all blows over trump will go back to raising hell about the illegals, hes just taking advantage of the opportunity to gain a few liberal votes.

And what has he actually done about that other than yapping and tweeting and pissing people off?
 
Simple solution, vote in his opponent next year. This has worked very well in WA, OR, and CA for decades. The "better choice" was not good enough so gun owners voted for their opponent. Just look how well it's working? Why not keep doing it?
Well said. Trump is a pathetic buffoon and no supporter of human rights in general let alone gun rights.

That being said he's the absolute best we could hope for given how he's rebuilding the courts.

Once he's out of office I wouldn't be happier if they fed him to a wood chipper but for now he's the best.
 
Im sure once this all blows over trump will go back to raising hell about the illegals, hes just taking advantage of the opportunity to gain a few liberal votes.

I don't believe that for one bit, as not one liberal will ever vote for him. He's deluded if he believes that he can do anything that will ever get anyone left of center to vote for him ........ Hell, even after banning bump stocks, he didn't even receive one iota of praise from the anti-gun community.



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"MechaNik: What's the tipping point? Is there a tipping point?"

The tipping point is like porn
Hard to define, but pretty darn clear when it is seen
 
Whats up with all trumps anti-gun threats in the last year? Specially today? He must be fishing for re election votes, hes gone half liberal on us lately!! Im about to peel off my trump stickers, hes embarassing me.

The Libs will never vote for Trump no matter what he gives up. He should just stick to his Guns so to speak .
 
Biden is a Bit more of an Anti-Gun Guy he's Truly an Anti-2nd Amendment Guy! Right now, as bad as he may be Trump is still a better choice!
 
Well said. Trump is a pathetic buffoon and no supporter of human rights in general let alone gun rights.

That being said he's the absolute best we could hope for given how he's rebuilding the courts.

Once he's out of office I wouldn't be happier if they fed him to a wood chipper but for now he's the best.

Yep. Every election here I end up voting for people who I have little use for. I look at who can actually win, and then which one of them will do me the least harm, and cast my vote. An amazing number of gun owners have Trump derangement syndrome so bad they really wish Hilary had won. This is how OR got Kate twice now and look how those who helped her win scream now:s0054:
 
The Libs will never vote for Trump no matter what he gives up. He should just stick to his Guns so to speak .
He has to win over gun owners who VERY often are all in on more gun control. If you read this group you see a hell of a lot of gun owners who are all in on more gun control. This is just a small portion of the gun owners and it's bad here. So what are politicians supposed to do? They have gun owners telling them they want more laws.
 
Wow! Talk about me/you/us being stuck between a rock and a hard place! I voted for Trump because I really did not want that woman winning. While I still believe I made the right choice, it is getting harder and harder to keep that feeling. Now what? :(
 
well, Obama never took my guns, and in fact, they got a lot cheaper, so I'm not going to worry about it. On top of that, someone's opinion on guns is pretty low on how I judge their ability to run a country.

Decide what's important to you, and vote accordingly.
 
well, Obama never took my guns, and in fact, they got a lot cheaper, so I'm not going to worry about it
You must be remembering differently.
$800 SKS during 2008-2009?
$1,000 DPMS ARs?
$900 AKs?
$100 a brick of .22lr?
2012, certain gun prices came down a little bit, but not by much....
Its 2019 now and we can get $350 complete, budget, decent quality AR15s, with some models (polymer lower) being even cheaper... AKs are still $600+ though. I haven't seen SKS for less than $400 around here.
 

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