Oregon I want to verify something I heard

[Gunguy931]

I was told by a worker at a particular gun store that if you have a tax stamp on a firearm it cannot be confiscated if the state imposes a law restricting the ownership of said firearm. An example of this would be if you had a stamped short barreled AR-15 and the state drops a bunch of restrictions like we've seen in California and New York, it becomes essentially exempt from these restrictions. I'd like to hear some thoughts and maybe find someone who can confirm or disprove this.

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[The Heretic]

I doubt it.

 

[American123]

I was told by a worker at a particular gun store that if you have a tax stamp on a firearm it cannot be confiscated if the state imposes a law restricting the ownership of said firearm. An example of this would be if you had a stamped short barreled AR-15 and the state drops a bunch of restrictions like we've seen in California and New York, it becomes essentially exempt from these restrictions. I'd like to hear some thoughts and maybe find someone who can confirm or disprove this.

Don't know, highly dubious.

 

[The Heretic]

They would give you time to remove it from the state, unless they grandfather it, but I doubt that federal law can override state law this way. I've never heard of this. LGSs are great places to hear many myths about guns, whether it is about laws/etc., ballistics or other things some so called "expert" heard and never checked out before he repeats it to someone else.

 

[Gunguy931]

I was skeptical when I heard it. It doesn't seem impossible but highly unlikely though.

 

[American123]

They would give you time to remove it from the state, unless they grandfather it, but I doubt that federal law can override state law this way. I've never heard of this. LGSs are great places to hear many myths about guns, whether it is about laws/etc., ballistics or other things some so called "expert" heard and never checked out before he repeats it to someone else.

I have found more people who work gun counters are imbeciles than are highly knowledgeable about guns people.

 

[The Heretic]

There is the FOPA, but that only protects guns in general (any gun, not just NFA) when passing thru a state - if you don't stop overnight.

 

[Knebel]

Yeah like the one... while I looked at an uzi and said "that would be more fun in full auto". The reply was "you can always just convert it and just not tell anyone". I was like WTF!?... didnt end up buying that one.

 

[Camelfilter]

My understanding is owners of any NFA items must comply with state laws where they reside.

So, in the OP's hypothetical, unless "grandfathered" in said hypothetical, the NFA owner would have to sell it to/through an appropriate dealer out of state.

Or move.

 

[The Heretic]

Yeah like the one... while I looked at an uzi and said "that would be more fun in full auto". The reply was "you can always just convert it and just not tell anyone". I was like WTF!?... didnt end up buying that one.

The full auto Uzis are open bolt, the semi-autos are not (they fire from a closed bolt), which makes them harder to convert to full-auto and not as desirable.

 

[Knebel]

The full auto Uzis are open bolt, the semi-autos are not (they fire from a closed bolt), which makes them harder to convert to full-auto and not as desirable.

I literally know nothing about them.... I thought they are all open bolt!?

 

[The Heretic]

I literally know nothing about them.... I thought they are all open bolt!?

Nope.

 

[The Heretic]

Gun Review: "Open Bolt" Explained - A Tale of Two Uzis -

Since I got into machine guns one of the most unusual things I have noticed is that an astounding amount of people who shoot most commonly available submachine guns will get ready, anchor their feet into the ground, cock the bolt to the rear, and then look at me confused and say “it won’t cock”...

www.thefirearmblog.com

 

[aksu747]

I literally know nothing about them.... I thought they are all open bolt!?

Just the full-auto version is. There is a welded in portion of the body of semi-versions to prevent the full-auto versions bolt from being able to go in easily.This is also why semi-auto uzi's have that straight line cut in the bolt.
The trigger group is also different for the semi-auto versions. That said it is not a difficult conversion to full-auto if one has the know how. The Mac-10 and Mac-11 series are also easy to convert, also why they are popular with gangs.

 

[revjen45]

FWIW, a popular model of autoloading pistol can be converted to FA with 2 pieces cut out of a penny, which can be dropped out by removing the slide and leaving no evidence.

Would I share such dangerous technology with the Drooling Masses? Nope.

 

[jbett98]

I use to own a vintage .22lr open bolt Marlin 50 rifle.
It could easily be converted to full auto, but since it only had a 8 rd magazine, why bother taking the risk.

Marlin Rare Semi-Auto: The Open Bolt Marlin Model 50

Odds are, you either cut your teeth on or have at least at one point in your life fired a Marlin semi-auto .22LR rifle. Today, the tube-fed Model 60 and its detachable-magazine Model 70 half-brother are the benchmark for rimfire auto-loaders...

www.marlinforum.com

 

[CountryGent]

My understanding is owners of any NFA items must comply with state laws where they reside.

So, in the OP's hypothetical, unless "grandfathered" in said hypothetical, the NFA owner would have to sell it to/through an appropriate dealer out of state.

Or move.

^. This is the correct answer. Ownership of NFA items is still subject to all state laws.

 

[PiratePast40]

Hmmm, interesting conundrum. To SBR, or not SBR, that is the question.

Anyone know for sure what happened in California?

 

[oremike]

Too much if, maybe and sort of for me, no one knows what or even if the law says until it's written and made law. Any more that that is just mental masturbation.

 

[PiratePast40]

Too much if, maybe and sort of for me, no one knows what or even if the law says until it's written and made law. Any more that that is just mental masturbation.

That's absolutely true, however, since many of the Oregon dems admire their California cohorts, I would imagine they would try to copy their strategy and actions.