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Here is the new ban list fresh off the press

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by jjackffrost, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. jjackffrost

    jjackffrost central oregon Active Member

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    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    AR-15,
    Bushmaster XM15,
    Armalite M15,
    AR-10,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    AK,
    AKM,
    AKS,
    AK-47,
    AK-74,
    ARM,
    MAK90,
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    VEPR;
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    AR70,
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    FN/LAR, or FNC,
    Hi-Point20Carbine,
    HK-91,
    HK-93,
    HK-94,
    HK-PSG-1,
    Thompson 1927 Commando,
    Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
    Saiga,
    SAR-8,
    SAR-4800,
    SKS with detachable magazine,
    SLG 95,
    SLR 95 or 96,
    Steyr AU,
    Tavor,
    Uzi,
    Galil and Uzi Sporter,
    Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110,
    MAC-10,
    MAC-11, or MPA3,
    Olympic Arms OA,
    TEC-9,
    TEC-DC9,
    TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    Uzi.
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG,
    SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    Striker 12,
    Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
    below),
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
    10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
    detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
    rounds.
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
    of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
    to be turned in no keeping them this time
     
  2. jjackffrost

    jjackffrost central oregon Active Member

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  3. SheepDog223

    SheepDog223 Salem Well-Known Member

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    This is from Obama gun scare 1.0 we need to find out about Obama gun scare 2.0
     
  4. tripleshotsplease

    tripleshotsplease Seattle Active Member

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    where is the source for this list..
     
  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the same list that makes the rounds every few months.
     
  6. Steve06

    Steve06 Oregon Active Member

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    if that is the list then we need to get a couple of M-14's and a pile of magazines.
     
  7. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    hmm...good point. But i see mak90 on the list....wasn't the mak90 just an AK with some cosmetic surgery to make it ban compliant after the '94 ban was crapped upon us? they were allowed at the time.....not saying yay or nay on the list but the mak90 caught my eye
     
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  8. SheepDog223

    SheepDog223 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Yahoo,com front page... Yeah, not a chance a ban is comming. lol with a sick feeling in my stomach.

    As President Barack Obama approaches his second and final term, he will have to decide where to be ambitious, where to be cautious and where to buy time. A look at some of the big issues Obama will have to tackle when he returns to Washington after a Hawaiian vacation:
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    GUN CONTROL
    Nothing lends an issue a sense of urgency like a harrowing tragedy that leaves the nation feeling shell-shocked. Shortly after the Dec. 14 school shooting in Connecticut, Obama said gun control would be a central issue in his second term, and named an interagency task force to recommend anti-violence legislation, with Vice President Joe Biden taking the lead. Meanwhile, pro-gun Democrats and even a few Republicans have expressed a willingness to consider new gun regulations, a shift that many have described as a "tipping point" in the age-old efforts to impose more stringent restrictions on gun ownership.
    But the National Rifle Association has made clear it won't play ball. Instead of new gun laws, the NRA's chief executive officer proposed putting armed guards in every school, highlighting the sizable rift between gun-rights advocates and gun-control supporters that will complicate Obama's efforts to get something through Congress.
    Obama's Democratic predecessor, President Bill Clinton, pushed an assault weapons ban through the Democratic-led Congress in 1994, prompting fierce pushback from gun-rights groups. Clinton later would credit the NRA with shifting the House majority to the GOP for the first time in 40 years, although other factors including a House bank scandal played big roles, too. The Clinton-era ban expired in 2004 and has not been renewed.
     
  9. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    I will see what the real list is when it comes out instead of some ones best guess.

    James Ruby
     
  10. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    So the Attorney General, who'd is an unconvicted felon IMHO, gets carte Blanche to deficate all over out constitutional rights?
    Sounds about right.
    And since crap for brains Biden was an author of the last ban it only makes sense that the new song sounds a lot like the 1994 tune.
     
  11. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    1994 called, it wants it's list back. I guess almost 20 years can still be hot off the press..........
     
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  12. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Well if the Mak90 had to do with the AWB of 1994 wouldn't it be called the Mak94?

    Import AK's (since that is what you are talking about) have been and STILL are illegal unless all the "evil" features are removed. It has been this way since 1989 due to the ban on importing "non-sporting" firearms. This is why classic HK's, AK's, FAL's, Galil's Uzi's, ect are expensive, they are illegal to import.
     
  13. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    thanks for the info!
     
  14. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    The list looks quite similar to the roberti-roos list from CAs 1989 ban with a few additions. I always thought it was interesting that they included the PSG-1 on the list - how many shootings were done with a $5k + rifle?
     
  15. Botte Hork

    Botte Hork Camas WA Well-Known Member

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    You all are aware that Harry R., some NV Dem rep "stands shoulder to shoulder" with Wayne LaP, a certain somebody in a gun club: Sportsmen for Harry Reid | U.S. Senator Harry Reid, Nevada -- Official Campaign Website

    The house minority leader has an NRA A rating and probably needs it to survive elections in his district, like many other local Democrats. The CCW'ing Pelosis can speak, but the people of the US will also speak and have spoken in the past after the 94 ban.

    I don't think there's much to fear for the next 2 years. That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep our congressmen and -women informed of our convictions and voting preferences...
     
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    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    Below is the link the Feinstein's page on her AWB bill that she wants to introduce in January. It doesn't list the weapons but note that that it bans any semiautomatic rifle, handgun or shotgun that can accept a detachable magazine and has one military characteristic. The existing weapons are grandfathered in but they must be registered under the National Firearms Act.

    Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein
     
  17. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    I would like to see her list of the banned weapons and which ones she thinks are ok. Wonder where my 1911's fit into the picture?

    James Ruby
     
  18. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I don't see this lunacy actually happening.
     
  19. just dan

    just dan PDX Active Member

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    It really doesn't look much different than any of the proposed bans Feinstein tries pushing every year.
    This is her only hope at leaving a legacy; In the end she'll just leave.
     
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  20. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    Has anyone thought of starting one of those white house petitions petitioning for Feinstien to get her CHL revoked?