Help Me Identify This Cartridge

[Howard1955]

I came across this cartridge today. My wife's grandfather fought in both world wars, and I'm wondering if he brought this home from one of them.

Appears to be 29mm long, and 9mm across. Stamped BP-18. Wondering where and when it was made, and if this type of cartridge was used in the war(s).

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[Nocaster]

9mm Largo?

 

[Certaindeaf]

Measure it. It looks like an old original (they used that truncated bullet profile) 9x19 Luger.

 

[MountainBear]

The headstamp is Italian if my google-fu is correct.

 

[bolus]

The headstamp is Italian if my google-fu is correct.

yeah, looks like a Carcano
Help with Carcano headstamp database

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

its a 9mm somethin for sure

 

[Certaindeaf]

its a 9mm somethin for sure

Measuring sticks lacking for sure. wtf

 

[Howard1955]

9 × 19 mm Glisenti - Wikipedia

maybe?

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"The Italians seem to have been very fond of their semi-automatic pistols as they kept some of them in service for long periods for no apparent reason. Mind you they are quite good and well made pistols. The Model 1910 Glisenti is a reduced velocity version of the 9mm Parabellum. The higher velocity parabellum cartridge should not be used in the Glisenti weapon. The cartridge appears to have been made between 1910 and 1934.

This cartridge was also applied to the M1915 pistol (7.65mm).


The truncated projectile identifies the Glisenti cartridge. These are the two jacket variations.


A late production packet for the M1910 made at Bologna"

ref PDF Document Download http://ammunitionpages.com/download/273/Italian 9mm Glisenti M1910.pdf

and another...

http://www.ammunitionpages.com/download/529/

and another...

link to website 9 mm Glisenti : Pistols / metric <---this one gives you the cartridge dimensions.

more on the pistol and cartridge Glisenti M1910 Auto

and you won't want to miss this one...Modern Firearms - Villar Perosa

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MTpockets:

First of all, I love your screen name.

And thanks, I think you nailed it. I read about the M1910, and it's history seems to fit in with what we know about Grandpa Clarence's military service. He was in France during World War 1, and probably brought some souvenirs home.

I'll check with some of the family to see if he had the M1910. Maybe it's still in the family somewhere.

Howard

 

[Howard1955]

Thanks everybody. Looks like it's a 9mm Glisenti, used in an Italian pistol and in submachine guns.

 

[tac]

Bambrini Delfodi cartridge company, Delfino, Rome, Iddly.

tac

 

[Howard1955]

Thanks.

Heh. 'Iddly'.