Washington HB 1240 In Process Transactions

[Jcremer24]

FYI- Update found on Facebook regarding in process background checks entered prior to 1240 signature. Credit goes to @Sporting Systems for sharing this… Thank you for this incredibly useful information!

Video: https://tvw.org/video/senate-floor-debate-april-8-2023041097/?eventID=2023041097

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[User 1234]

The video won't load for me. What was discussed at 54:15?

 

[Jcremer24]

The video won't load for me. What was discussed at 54:15?

Sen. Dhingra made a clarification that individuals who had purchased, passed NICS check, and were in waiting period prior to signature of bill will receive their firearm.

 

[Rvr350]

Wow, how gracious of our overlord to grant us such privilege to retrieve our legally purchased goods…

Sen. Dhingra made a clarification that individuals who had purchased, passed NICS check, and were in waiting period prior to signature of bill will receive their firearm.

 

[leverite]

Sen. Dhingra made a clarification that individuals who had purchased, passed NICS check, and were in waiting period prior to signature of bill will receive their firearm.

Not if you bought it at Sportsmans Warehouse.

 

[Jcremer24]

Wow, how gracious of our overlord to grant us such privilege to retrieve our legally purchased goods…

Right? Dear God. The bar is on the floor at this point

 

[Jcremer24]

Not if you bought it at Sportsmans Warehouse.

Im hearing mixed things… I'd expect big businesses like Cabelas/Bass pro and sportmans to simp to the government like they always do. But your garage FFL's- I guess it comes down to their discretion. Some are transferring, some are not. Bill's video seemed to bring an opposite view of what was written in that WASP letter and said in the video

 

[uberguy]

Any highlights to point out ( by timeline)? The whole thing is over 3 hrs long, but tkx for posting.

 

[Jcremer24]

Any highlights to point out ( by timeline)? The whole thing is over 3 hrs long, but tkx for posting.

Skip to 54 minutes to see what Im talking about… I havent had a chance to watch the whole video. Not sure if I could.

 

[Jcremer24]

To update here, my FFL got my proceed today but is waiting for an injunction before transferring the firearm (I have one in process). So- it really depends on the FFL at this point and if they are willing to put themselves on the line and give the gov/ag the finger. The law clearly bans transfers of firearms- but it looks like most law enforcement agencies are still processing and have been ordered to do so, but the state's very ignorant and poorly written law will prevent the FFL from transferring the rifle to you legally (per state law).

 

[leverite]

To update here, my FFL got my proceed today but is waiting for an injunction before transferring the firearm (I have one in process). So- it really depends on the FFL at this point and if they are willing to put themselves on the line and give the gov/ag the finger. The law clearly bans transfers of firearms- but it looks like most law enforcement agencies are still processing and have been ordered to do so, but the state's very ignorant and poorly written law will prevent the FFL from transferring the rifle to you legally (per state law).

The law does not "clearly ban the TRANSFERS of firearms".
Most FFL's have prudently interpreted the law's ban on DISTRIBUTION to include transfers.

But here the language is as vague and mysterious as other sections that preclude selling of so-called assault weapon "parts". Only a court can settle this, but we can hope all these ambiguous babies get tossed out with the bubblegum contaminated bath water that is this law.

 

[monkeybutler]

But here the language is as vague and mysterious as other sections that preclude selling of so-called assault weapon "parts".

The constructive possession aspect of the law could make owning certain combinations of parts a problem, but there is no ban on parts themselves.

 

[leverite]

That is a hopeful conclusion not shared by all.
HB 1240 Page 5, line 1, lists assault weapon items banned from WA. On that list is "...PARTS, combinations of parts..."
How will Bobby Ferguson interpret that?

 

[monkeybutler]

Huh, must be a lot of hopeful conclusions at places like Midway USA.

 

[leverite]

I wouldn't count on Midway.

Last year after the mag ban went into effect I tried to order a plastic spacer for my SW M&P extended mag from Midway.
They refused. Got it at Sportsmans.
.

 

[monkeybutler]

What someone I know - not me of course - just ordered from Midway suggests something else.

You did not really expect them to make an illegal sale of a magazine, right?

 

[leverite]

What someone I know - not me of course - just ordered from Midway suggests something else.

You did not really expect them to make an illegal sale of a magazine

As I said...not a mag...just a plastic spacer that slides over the mag to extend the grip.
I had that 15 round mag for years.

 

[leverite]

Most interesting...
I just started a Midway order.
They still won't sell me the mag sleeve, but...

 

[monkeybutler]

Oh, mag sleeve, yeah that sounds like an error on their part if it does not increae capacity.

 

[BrotherMoses]

I just got a call from my ffl today. the semi auto 22lr I impulse purchased and got the proceed came with a caviat that he couldn't transfer it because the nics check did not supercede hb1240. So unfortunately that's how the law is written. Kinda ties the hands of the ffl.