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Guns a big 2016 campaign issue

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The anti's are just looking for 'anything' they can declare a 'win'. They are pathetic. None of the FFL's I deal with will release the firearm until they receive the approval number no matter how many days it takes, no exceptions. I guess there are a very few that will so the anti's are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
     
  3. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Well, 15,000 deliveries to ineligible persons is not a mole hill, in my book, however, the question is : "whose fault is it"? I have purchased guns from 6 different dealers in my area and all wait until the "proceed", and sometimes it has taken a week or longer. It does not really matter whether it's 3 days, or 5, or 10. But there has to be a limit to prevent "stalling".

    I don't understand how a database record with SS# and attached a "good to go" or "prohibited" data field would take more than a couple of seconds to query?

    Remember Marysville? The dad of the kid that shot up his classmates was prohibited, but tribal courts had failed to pass the data on. There are many cracks to fall through, not enough time to check is only one of them.

    My suggestion would be to allow for an extended check for first time buyers (e.g. your first purchase can take up to 2 weeks), but thereafter things should be instant. If you refuse to give your social, well then you may just have to wait.
     
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  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Wonder how Trump, Walker, Bush, Christie etc. will handle any gun issues brought up?
    First debate Tomorrow on Fox.
     
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  5. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand how a database record with SS# and attached a "good to go" or "prohibited" data field would take more than a couple of seconds to query?
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    1994----Denied in Alaska , I had to get a letter from the FBI that said I was good to go
    2003--Denied in Oregon, I had to go rounds with them for 2 months after I sent them a copy of the FBI Letter.
    2012-- Cop pulls gun on me " cause I'm a felon " during a traffic stop , Computer say's I'm a felon ??

    I have a FFL/SOT and I cant buy a gun with my ID in oregon without a delay.
    The system is a POS and need's to be tossed.
     
  6. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like it needs a redo ... I wonder whether you have a "doppelgaenger" with same name and similar SS#, or maybe someone who lived at the same address as you at some point ...
     
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    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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  8. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    15,729 firearm sales in 5 years, Out of 90 Million +++? That sounds Outstanding for a Government system.

    How many guys on the Turd list are guy's like me that went out on their 18th birthday bought their very first Evil Assault weapon.
    Waited the three days for the delay got the gun and 2 weeks later got a call saying I was prohibited.

    Long story short 4 months later I got my letter saying I could own firearms from the FBI.

    The system is ready for a 1776 reboot from top to bottom.................................................






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  9. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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  10. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    wow the bottom one is a scary looking assault weapon of war. it needs banned before gangsters get their hands on them to street modify.
     
  11. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    The funny thing is, both shoot .22LR, have a 10rd magazine (and both can attach 25+ rd mags), however, the scary gun has a 9 inch barrel while the wooden plinker has a 16+ inch barrel. Which one is more dangerous, the 10/22 because it's a rifle and it's more accurate at pretty much any distance, and delivers more energy for pretty much any given ammo.
     
  12. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    lol. I definitely know that. that was my best feinstein :coughdevilcoughcough: impersonation.
     
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    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    now that you mention her name, it triggered my memory recall on her "trigger discipline" which is truly scary

    nra-feinstein.jpg
     
  14. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    im suprised she didnt melt at the sight of one of those, man. if she hates guns so much you would think she would ATLEAST keep her finger off the trigger. lack of trigger control gets people killed.
     
  15. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    I will tell you after running hundreds of background checks on staff and contractors working in the prison system as well as reviewing thousands of rap sheets on convicted felons/inmates/parolees that you would be surprised at the number of reasons you might be flagged. I have seen inmates convicted of identity theft that had more than 50 social security numbers affiliated with their file and dozens of aliases as well. This means that if you have a common name or were unfortunate enough to have one of these criminals randomly spit out your social security number or name in an attempt to avoid a warrant/arrest you will be flagged. You would think that the FBI would figure a way to fix this problem but they really aren't interested. The likelyhood of them even remembering any of those social security numbers or even the names they used trying to avoid another arrest are minimal at best considering they were caught using them so I don't get the long term affiliation of that information bleeding over to the gun purchasing side of background checks.
     
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  16. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Maybe we should all just get a micro chip implant to make it easy to identify ourselves. ( Just kidding )

    It's not just gun purchases, Traffic stops are also included.
    Warrants for $hit I didn't do out of other states that I have had to deal with also.

    When a local system cant even pull a mug shot of the Federal system there is a problem. ( NCIC )

    A BIG PROBLEM
     
  17. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    Geez... the longest I've waited is about 20 mins for my name to come up at OSP online, and 3 or 4 minutes to review my form. That includes both at LGS and gun shows. (OR)
    The last time I dealt with 3 days was back in the 80's. lol
     
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    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Maybe worth asking the SSA whether you can get a new SS#, if that's the source of your problem. Otherwise your Blade Runner suggestion is not bad ;-) We chipped our cats.
     
  19. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Nice ... Christie would probably blush a little.
     
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