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Gun registration data base in WA

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Wayne, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne Near Tacoma Active Member

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    Am I the last one in Washington to find out that Wa. keeps a registration data base on all guns transferd through an FFL I had thought Wa was a non register state
     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    Hooray for private transfers!
     
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  3. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Only handguns
     
  4. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    At least it's just for pistols.

    Oregon registers EVERYTHING.
     
  5. Wayne

    Wayne Near Tacoma Active Member

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    And I have lived here for 39 years, just never knew.
     
  6. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Please state your reference source, as I'm fairly sure this is not accurate.
     
  7. jb11

    jb11 salem Active Member

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    x2
     
  8. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    If you've ever purchased a handgun in WA from a dealer this should not be a surprise, you had to sign the form...
     
  9. goose3512

    goose3512 whidbey island New Member

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    How far back does it go
     
  10. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    During an ATF audit they provided me the records of all firearms purchased. They got them from OSP.

    Any dealer that has had a compliance inspection probably had the same interaction.

    I know they are supposed to be destroyed, but they are not.

    They don't call it a registry, but by definition, what would you call it when they retain the name, date, serial number, make and model of a firearm purchased?
     
  11. Wayne

    Wayne Near Tacoma Active Member

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    I have bought 3 in the last 2 years, don't remember signing any thing that was sent to the state, just the 4473.
     
  12. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    So it's the same situation as California and NY; just prior to their gun confiscation going into effect
     
  13. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    There was also an "Application to Transfer Pistol" form. Yellow copy gets sent to Olympia, white copy to the CLEO, and the pink copy gets retained by the dealer.
     
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  14. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    Registration usually leads to confiscation ,,too bad the mind numb don't realize the fact.
     
  15. Wayne

    Wayne Near Tacoma Active Member

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    I guess I never checked the copy's to see where they went.
     
  16. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    It doesn't really work up very well up north of your state.

    Oregonians and Washingtonians can freely hand firearms between each other without registration. (as long as they both live in the same state)

    It would be nearly impossible to find a registered firearm in these 2 states.
     
  17. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    I'm asking because I've purchased things from a dealer doing a 4473. Then when I sold the firearm through consignment via another FFL a few years later, they couldn't find record of me having purchased it.

    So it seems that there is some limit on their records, or were at one point. Maybe not any longer?
     
  18. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Taxpayers may be tapped to fix gun registry backlog

    By Joel Moreno Published: Dec 9, 2013 at 6:23 PM PST

    Taxpayers may be tapped to fix gun registry backlog»Play Video In this Jan. 26, 2013 file photo, guns are displayed during the annual New York State Arms Collectors Association Albany Gun Show at the Empire State Plaza Convention Center. (AP Photo/Philip Kamrass)

    OLYMPIA, Wash. -- A run on weapons is proving too much for state regulators to keep up with, and it may be taxpayers who bail them out.

    A gun registry called ACCESS is months behind the surge in sales, but a plan to pump in more public money is drawing fire from weapons dealers.

    "Being a taxpayer, I'm not fond of spending money on something that is already -- the database -- is already there," said Brian Schuetz, who owns Olympic Arms, a firearms manufacturer in Olympia.

    Handguns are being snapped up in Washington faster than information on the buyers, sellers and weapons can be entered into the database.

    "Over the last seven years, firearms sales in our state have nearly tripled while the number of our staff has remained the same," said Christine Anthony, a Department of Licensing spokesperson.

    DOL is now asking for another $409,000 so temporary workers can help process this pile-up of paperwork. Staffers say leaving the backlog could hurt police investigations, as law enforcement agencies check the handgun database thousands of times every day.

    "Public safety is actually being compromised," Anthony said. "The further the backlog is, the less current the information is for law enforcement
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    However, gun store owners like Schuetz believes the access database is redundant. He pointed to the federal and state reporting forms he's required to submit, and says law enforcement can already track handgun sales through databases that aren't backlogged.

    "If that one's already up to date, why do i want to spend money to bring the other one that does the same thing," Schuetz said.

    Still, law enforcement agencies contacted by KOMO 4 insist that despite the flaws, they need the ACCESS site as one more tool to fight crime.
     
  19. DAPSRT

    DAPSRT Dallas, Or Active Member

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    I just talked with OSP about this a week ago and they destroy any records they hold 10 days after the transaction is processed....who knows what info gets transferred to ATF and what they hold. If you want to get picky about it the gun dealer can't get rid of their paperwork for quite a while....technically not a registry but certainly able to track things down.

    Describe the "ATF audit" you talked about.
     
  20. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed that a lot of people here in the NW have boating accidents and lose their weapons. I guess I need to get a big magnet and go trolling!


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