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Gun Owners FOR 594

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by FourTeeFive, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. FourTeeFive

    FourTeeFive PNW Washington State Active Member

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  2. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha, 4 people from Pierce county. :p
     
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  3. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    th?id=HN.608023505231610985&pid=15.1&P=0 It's always a mistake to think Progressive Collectivists don't own guns (and want to take yours)
    PS can you see this attachment?
     
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  4. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Their explanation of I594 lies by omission.

    They are obviously mentally unfit to have firearms.
     
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  5. hollowbase

    hollowbase Oregon Member

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    It makes me wonder if in fact they are really gun owners.
     
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  6. TastyWheat87

    TastyWheat87 Washington Active Member

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    Made-up names on a bullcrap list. bubblegum I-594.
     
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  7. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Every one of the debates, ads, speeches, and even the voter's guide misrepresent the whole picture of 594.

    The voter's guide mentions nothing about CLEO sign-off, the impossibility of getting mental health records, the 10-day wait for the CLEOs to do nothing, the impossible strain that will be placed on police budgets to even ignore this thing, and who talks about the $million dollar price tag for it all?

    Where is the revision of the HIPPA laws to permit DHS to release patient information? How's that supposed to work in this "common sense" boondoggle?

    Frustration and disgust.
     
  8. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    There are a LOT of gun owners out there who don't want others to own guns - a lot.

    Owning a gun doesn't automatically make you believe in freedom and liberty.

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  9. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    They are nothing but lying liberals,,,
     
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  10. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    How then do they rationalize their OWN ownership then? Not unlike the 'Professional Sportsmen' who are anti anything - unless it has a specific 'sporting' purpose. Watch any of the hunting/outdoor shows and you'll see what I am referring to.
     
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  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    The ability of the human mind to "rationalize" ANYTHING knows no bounds.
     
  12. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ever see the gun control advocate who themselves secretly own guns?

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/anti-gun-democrat-arrested-ferguson-protest-pistol-reeking-alcohol/

    There are a LOT of people like that. They think they are special.

    They consider themselves sane and responsible gun owners, but they are totally unsure of everybody else, so they want guns controlled with "reasonable" gun control laws.

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    Come on - do you really think only "red blooded conservatives" and libertarians own guns?

    There are a lot more moderates and liberals than there are conservatives, and libertarians like me make up less than 1% of the political landscape.

    Do not make the common and naive mistake of thinking that everyone who owns a gun thinks like you do - most do not.

    There are a huge number of people who own guns who are not pro-gun people. It simply isn't that important to them, or they think they are being "reasonable". These are the people with an O/U who occasionally bird hunt who say "you don't need an assault gun to hunt" or something like that - not understanding that the second amendment is not at all about hunting or even self-defense.

    Indeed, how often do you hear pro gun advocates talk about the real meaning and purpose behind the second amendment?

    It isn't self-defense - it is about a balance of power between the governed and the government. The second amendment isn't even about guns - it is about "arms". It it states that the private citizenry should be armed to counter the threat of a "standing army". This means guns, but it also means grenades, cannons, tanks, and any other "arm" that the government has (and typically denies to the citizenry by placing barriers to ownership in place).
     
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  13. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Yea I understand - my question was somewhat rhetorical. The hypocrisy is what burns my butt the most!
     
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  14. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    So, can anyone see my attachment in post #3?

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  15. Lilhigbee

    Lilhigbee SE Portland Visit Target550.com Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The day after Obummer's election my girlfriend and I were at Johnson Creek Gun Club and a member comes in wearing an Obama shirt of some kind. Couldn't believe it. There is absolutely no limit to stupidity.
     
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    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Romney was no better, nor was Bush.

    I am not a single issue voter.

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    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    All for me, none for thee.
     
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    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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  20. Diamondback

    Diamondback A cold, wet green Hell Well-Known Member

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    German Jews in the Camps had a word for these people: "Kapos."

    Frankly, I believe they should be given treatment in the spirit (not physically, but socially and politically) of what the various European Resistance movements gave the Goose-Stepping Bastards' local collaborators...
     
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