Another 737 catches fire

[Alexx1401]

2 f-18s crashed at the Idaho air show:

Damn that was one VERY expensive little mistake!

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Blancolirio video on it

 

[ilikegunspdx]

"Ebola Air" denied us airspace and sent to canada instead

Air France flight blocked from entering US, diverted to Canada over Ebola fears

An Air France flight was blocked from entering US airspace and instead diverted to Canada over fears of one passenger’s exposure to the Ebola outbreak in Africa.

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In other news, a Canadian Man was arrested in the airport for saying he "wanted to smoke a bowl a"

 

[nwslopoke]

I am not for a lot of regulations but airlines need to be forced to give refunds for medical issues. I've been on too many long flights with people hacking and coughing 9-10 hrs. They are miserable as is everyone around them and I'm sure someone is getting sick on their vacation.

But a lot of people buying $700-1200 non refundable tickets aren't going to take the hit and fly anyway. I can't remember the last time I was on a flight that wasn't packed. Since people want to get to their destination I don't think it would be overly abused.

 

[WillametteWill]

I am not for a lot of regulations but airlines need to be forced to give refunds for medical issues. I've been on too many long flights with people hacking and coughing 9-10 hrs. They are miserable as is everyone around them and I'm sure someone is getting sick on their vacation.

But a lot of people buying $700-1200 non refundable tickets aren't going to take the hit and fly anyway. I can't remember the last time I was on a flight that wasn't packed. Since people want to get to their destination I don't think it would be overly abused.

(My emphasis)
I'm in the air much of the year. If passengers can abuse something, they will. You can click the box and make your ticket refundable, but no one wants to pay the extra fee. So if airlines are forced to make fares refundable, that means my ticket price will go up. I'm responsible and purchase annual travel insurance. People who abuse systems will not.

Southwest had the problem of people using wheelchairs for early boarding before they changed their boarding procedures. You would see 12 people get on the plane in wheelchairs. But then there was the miracle at 30,000 feet, because only two of them needed them when they got off.

Almost all, if not all of the major airlines dumped rebooking fees after covid if you cancel a flight. They are good about giving full flight credit for six months to a year. This should eliminate sick people, but it doesn't. I feel your pain, as I've had bugs shared with me while flying, in airports, trains, etc.

 

[nwslopoke]

Since 2001 I generally hate airports, airlines and flying. I really only started flying again when I go overseas. One thing I noticed is people seem to show symptoms mostly on the flights back to the US. I don't really notice the sniffing, coughs and snotty sounds on the going away. Not to mention the plane etiquette.

One thing I saw for the first time were showers available at the Munich airport. Great idea I wish more airports would adopt this and more passengers consider using them.

 

[WillametteWill]

Since 2001 I generally hate airports, airlines and flying. I really only started flying again when I go overseas. One thing I noticed is people seem to show symptoms mostly on the flights back to the US. I don't really notice the sniffing, coughs and snotty sounds on the going away. Not to mention the plane etiquette.

One thing I saw for the first time were showers available at the Munich airport. Great idea I wish more airports would adopt this and more passengers consider using them.

I like watching this particular thread because I travel frequently. Folks post great stuff here. If you have seen the George Clooney movie Up in the Air, I'm not quite there yet (Executive Platinum status, but not Concierge Key, lol) and I keep status on Southwest. I'm a travel diva. (Dude version) The bottom line is that if you don't have status with airlines, hotels, car rental companies, TSA PreCheck, airline club access, etc., then traveling sucks.

Airline clubs gave you access to showers, food, comfortable seating that is (usually) not too close to others, nice washrooms...you get spoiled. Have status and fly internationally and it feels like the red carpet is rolled out for you. I bypass the lines for check-in, get free luggage allowance, use PreCheck to shorten or eliminate my wait for security (and not have to pull out seven different electronic devices...it's not a big deal.

But if you don't have these benefits, especially if you are travelling with kids, it can't be a very pleasant experience.

 

[nwslopoke]

I like watching this particular thread because I travel frequently. Folks post great stuff here. If you have seen the George Clooney movie Up in the Air, I'm not quite there yet (Executive Platinum status, but not Concierge Key, lol) and I keep status on Southwest. I'm a travel diva. (Dude version) The bottom line is that if you don't have status with airlines, hotels, car rental companies, TSA PreCheck, airline club access, etc., then traveling sucks.

Airline clubs gave you access to showers, food, comfortable seating that is (usually) not too close to others, nice washrooms...you get spoiled. Have status and fly internationally and it feels like the red carpet is rolled out for you. I bypass the lines for check-in, get free luggage allowance, use PreCheck to shorten or eliminate my wait for security (and not have to pull out seven different electronic devices...it's not a big deal.

But if you don't have these benefits, especially if you are travelling with kids, it can't be a very pleasant experience.

Sounds like a great way to fly. Apparently, I have Clear because I just got charged for it but never signed anything. It may have been part of a credit card promotion but thanks for reminding me I need to check that out. I haven't been a loyal customer to any particular airline so I never accumulated any miles. I take the shortest flight, fewest stops at the best price. If Spirit flew to London, that would be me. The most expensive ticket I'll buy is "Uppity Economy".

 

[Alexx1401]

I am not for a lot of regulations but airlines need to be forced to give refunds for medical issues.

Add this and all you get is increase in price. When you go to buy a ticket there are lots of options. Want the cheapest? They are there with restrictions. So when you want the cheapest and want no restrictions by Gov order? You are asking others to pay.

 

[nwslopoke]

Add this and all you get is increase in price. When you go to buy a ticket there are lots of options. Want the cheapest? They are there with restrictions. So when you want the cheapest and want no restrictions by Gov order? You are asking others to pay.

What I am more worried about is the guy who cheaps out and will still fly with some airborne herpes complex because the refundable ticket was $50 extra. It's not worth the potential spread of whatever Joe Cough-a-mi ute is spreading.

This is not to help the people who think about others. It's about the people who only think of themselves.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Nut job tries to open emergency exit doors in mid flight

Deranged Frontier Airlines passenger tries to jump out of plane mid-flight, causing emergency landing in Miami, wild video shows

A Frontier Airlines flight was diverted to Miami on Sunday when a deranged passenger tried to pry open the exit doors and break into the pilot’s cabin during a mid-flight rampage, according to auth…

nypost.com

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

2 f-18s crashed at the Idaho air show:

They survived

 

[nwslopoke]

Nut job tries to open emergency exit doors in mid flight

Deranged Frontier Airlines passenger tries to jump out of plane mid-flight, causing emergency landing in Miami, wild video shows

A Frontier Airlines flight was diverted to Miami on Sunday when a deranged passenger tried to pry open the exit doors and break into the pilot’s cabin during a mid-flight rampage, according to auth…

nypost.com

This still isn't as bad as some videos of drunk passengers refusing orders on Spirit.

 

[Provincial]

They survived

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Anyone identified by the Navy?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

This still isn't as bad as some videos of drunk passengers refusing orders on Spirit.

I think it's been a problem with all airlines ever since the FAA forced them to remove the emergency trap doors.

 

[Alexx1401]

This still isn't as bad as some videos of drunk passengers refusing orders on Spirit.

There is a SUPER simple way to "fix" the problems with flying. Every time some asshat can't control themselves they get banned by the TSA from ever getting on a plane. Let them use the bus or train. The reason there is so much of this is the people doing it get a hand slap. You should get one chance. If you push it to the point they have to remove you from the plane? You should never pass a TSA check again. This stuff would all but stop.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

 

[nwslopoke]

^Never gets old.