Feel free to start a new thread, I dont mind debating it...
Its just my opinion but those trigger safeties are almost worthless...
I'm sure that's been discussed to death even tho I can't find the thread due to the crappy search engine here.
Trigger was pretty good and with no safety I said just that. I figured these were going to be a problem and boy were they ever. Very soon Cops who had always had a wheel gun were handed one of these with far too little training. Lots of red faces when one would touch off a round at the wrong time. Glocks answer, making the trigger much harder seemed wrong to me.
Way too much urban legend around ADs committed by cops with a Glock. Yes, training was indeed the problem. Good call on that. You hand a guy a pistol that looks like a block of metal, that has a 5-6lb trigger, when the cop is used to a 12lb long pull trigger, and what did they think was going to happen unless there were lots of round expended at the range to retrain these guys away from "staging" the long pull trigger that Glock doesn't have. The New York trigger seemed to work for them tho. So, what did the Army do when they changed from 1911 to Beretta?
Additionally, the internal safeties, three of them (trigger shoe safety, firing pin safety, drop safety), on a Glock physically prevent the firearm from going off unless the trigger is pulled. What part of that is so hard to understand? The little leaf on the visible trigger shoe is not the only safety on the weapon. Think it all looks unsubstantial? Have you ever disassembled a 1911 and seen the tiny amount of contact between the safety and the sear?
A striker fired pistol is not completely cocked until the trigger is pulled. I don't think the striker is capable of setting off a round unless the pistol has been modified, even then the drop safety and the trigger safety are going to keep it from going off. Take any Glock apart and compare the safety mech to a 1911 mech, you'll see.
IIRC the ADs were before the LEO agencies were smart enough to require their cops to use a full holster that covers the entire trigger area so shirts, sticks, etc, cannot pull the trigger.
IMO, no Glock has ever had an AD without a trigger pull. One of my local gun dealers tried to tell me a deputy in his shop had one, but I believe what happened is the guy forgot to clear the weapon before pulling the trigger to take the slide off. That happens.
Are these design defects or as I believe just training and dumbass defects? They would not be the most popular firearm in IDPA if they were dangerous.