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Honest question here--how do the two compare in terms of corrosion resistance? I picked a Glock 26 for concealed carry in part because I knew I would never have any issues with rust. I am about to add a Glock 19 to my collection but if I could save $200 on the S&W I might consider it as an alternative. Hmmm.....
Honest question here--how do the two compare in terms of corrosion resistance? I picked a Glock 26 for concealed carry in part because I knew I would never have any issues with rust. I am about to add a Glock 19 to my collection but if I could save $200 on the S&W I might consider it as an alternative. Hmmm.....
Stainless Steel slide..
You think 150rds is a "few" mags? Most people feel 200rds is the minimum for established reliability for carry. How's the koolaid?.
You got beat up by an S&W rep as a kid didn't you?That don't mean anything, it is not real stainless.
Does a magnet stick to it, then it isn't real stainless. Has just enough to market it as such.
You got beat up by an S&W rep as a kid didn't you?
I have a question, has anyone tried home stippling a "slippery" S&W polymer grip?
My wifey picked up one of the SD9VE's a while back. It has a lot of features I prefer over my Glock 19. The mag release location, shape and size, the size and ease of use of the slide lock lever, the grip feel - the fact it uses metal vs polymer mags. The SD feels a little lighter than the Glock as well, comparing loaded gun to loaded gun. The stock trigger isn't great, but it's a great improvement over the Sigma. It's also a great improvement over the 2nd gen SW9/40VE (the most direct predecessor to this gun) guns.
The only two hitches in the giddyup so far - the slippery grip. Wife won't let me stipple her gun (yet) - and of the 4 16-round mags we've got for this gun only ONE of them allows to be loaded to 16 rounds. The other 3 mags won't take but 15. I've pulled the mags apart and examined springs and followers and tubes - and for the life of me I can't notice a difference - I'm thinking that 3 of the springs are just stronger than the other one. It's not a huge deal, but it's weird.
The polymer feel & finish is superior on the M&P and GLocks over the SD9 - but that's cosmetic. If I owned the gun, I"d be stippling the grip to make it less slippery. That's the only thing I'd change about it as a carry gun. The Smith is a natural pointer for me, the sights from the factory are usable, and all the controls are easy to operate. It's a good GLock 19 copy, superior to the Glock in a few ways, while Glock beats the Smith in a few ways. Still awaiting an M&P9 the same size as the SD9 / Glock 19...
Yep.glock = beige camry
Not sure the differences are quite that much. The slash lines (Height, Width, Length, and Dry Weight) are as follows. [SD9VE (height not found)/1.29"/7.2"/22.7oz] [Glock 19 Gen 4 4.99"/1.18"/7.28"/23.65oz] [S&W M&P9 5.5"/1.2"/7.63"/24.0oz]. Biggest difference is about .5" on the height. Makes a small difference when carrying concealed, as grip length can cause printing. About .35'' in length isn't really going to affect CCW. When I have the guns side by side in the shop, the M&P9 is a lot close to the G19 than the G17.
And not to be argumentative, but in a CCW the polymer finish is not about aesthetics. Its as big a performance issue as sights. If the gun slips around in the hand because the polymer isn't textured enough, it can affect accuracy as much as sights or size. Aesthetically, all three guns look pretty well alike to me. Polymer and steel blocks. Very little character, but great tools, all three.
My bubblegum with the m&p compact is that it doesn't fill a solid role. Its grip is goofy - I do not like guns that use mag extensions as part of the grip as primary carry guns. I want an M&P that has a one-piece grip that holds ~15 rounds, has a3.9 or 4 inch barrel, and has thesame G19 characteristics. The M&P compact, if using flush fit baseplates is a lot closer to the G26 in size, but they elected to cheese out and use hollow mag extensions (could've atleast made this +2 baseplates and had 14 round mags) for yourpinky. The backstrap is likewise too short for my preference.
Also- that .35" might notseem like much - but my G19 carries better for me and my method of carry than my M&P Compact does. That little bit more muzzle levers the butt into my abdomen more and keeps the butt from pushing away thanks to my belly. I like how the compact shoots - but it's a gun that falls between the subcompact and compact guns and is just a little wonky. Wonkey enough not to be my primary carry gun. My wife likes it though, and it fits her better as a carry gun. She likes the Compact more than the Shield.
A gun with a bit longer slide and a slighly shorter grip than the full (~1/2 inch") that was one piece would be about perfect.
And yes, theSD9 does suffer from being too slippery out of the box, thus stippling or skateboard tape if you'regonna CC this gun. The matte finish is also more pleasing to the eye. It's like ruger's first polymer framed guns - they were super shiney and slippery. Too slippery.
OK SD9VE owners;
I had someone ask a question on these, they wanted to know if the SD9VE is fully cocked like a XD or is it only partially cocked like a glock??