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Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by mrblond, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    I got a nice surprise today in some extra cash and I would like to get something super fun to shoot, IE a full auto firearm. Looking over GB, I see several but most look to be almost home made with the full auto receiver and they run around 30k. I also found a few WWII MP 40s for a lot less which would be very nice to have just for the historical value.
    What would you guys recommend ?
     
  2. Outrider

    Outrider Oregon Active Member

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    It depends on what you want to get into and what your budget is. From my point of view, I'd avoid the lower priced stuff like MACs and Stemples. –No offense to those who own them and like theirs.

    Look for something that has a plentiful supply of mags, replacement parts, and is in a caliber you can afford to shoot. There are some great guns out there but unfortunately some of them lack good aftermarket support.

    I’d also check in with the Uzi Talk forums. Don’t let the name fool you; they discuss many other NFA guns. It’s been a while since I was there but it used to be a pretty good resource for NFA knowledge.

    UZI Talk Forums
     
  3. BIG_GUNNUT

    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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    A lot depends on how much you want to spend. Let us know.
     
  4. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    I have maybe 30kish if I can find something nice. I was really looking at a STG 44 but the ammo costs/availability are a bubblegum. I was looking at a few MP5s and even thinking of maybe just getting a M4/M16 as ammo, parts, mags are easy to get and pretty cheap.
     
  5. BIG_GUNNUT

    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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    If I had that kind of coin I'd be looking for a HK transferable sear or trigger pack. With that you can shoot 9mm., .223, and .308.
    They are the most versatile in my opinion.
     
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    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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  8. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If I had the money that's probably what I would get.


    MrBlond: One thing to keep in mind is that if it is in state and on a dealer's inventory, you could conceivably get it within a few months...if you use a trust and the dealer uses e-forms to file the form 4. There are some decent dealers around that might have some inventory as well. MLC Class III in Salem is the only one I know of right off hand with a storefront, but I'm sure there are more, as well a few others that you might be able find at various gun shows.
     
  9. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    nice!
     
  10. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    You say that, but you don't say why. Certainly you must have a reason for your opinion.

    Which pretty much describes a M11-9 perfectly.
    shockwavetechnologies.com - makes a well thought of mag for the M11-9.
    Lage Manufacturing, L.L.C. MAX-11.com makes all kinds of parts and upgrades for the MAC family of fun guns, including a reliable .22LR kit.

    Great forum for NFA info, especially MAC info.
     
  11. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If I had the scratch I'd go with a M16 registered lower or a RDIAS if you can find one. The M16 platform can do everything from .22lr to big stuff like 50 Beowulf. MP5s are beautiful but limited to 9mm/40s&w/or 10mm if registered for all 3 calibers.
     
  12. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    At this point, with that budget, I'd probably get an M-16 and a Mac with all the Lage accessories, and a bunch of ammo and mags.
     
  13. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It doesn't actually matter what calibers a machinegun is registered in. As long as you can go back to the registered caliber, you can temporarily change to any caliber you want. Now, with the eform system, even if something previously had multiple calibers listed in the registry, the eform process will truncate it to a single caliber on the form.
     
  14. BIG_GUNNUT

    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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    The sear is the registered part. You can take the trigger box and put it on a HK93,HK33,HK53,HK53K,HK91,HK51,HK51K,HKG3K,SP89 and a few other hosts in calibers 9mm,.223,300AAC,and 308. Most sears are registered in 9mm,223, and 308.
     
  15. Outrider

    Outrider Oregon Active Member

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    I want to lead off with if you like your MAC (or Stemple), that is great. You don’t have to convince me that you really like what you own and purchased it for good reasons. I’m not here to insult your decision to purchase one. I don't want to argue with you about what their shortcomings are and what can be done to mitigate them.

    I simply believe there are better options in the NFA market than getting a MAC or a Stemple, especially since the OP claims he has roughly $30K to spend.

    Functionally, the MAC is fine, but it was designed to be a low cost firearm. It was generally simple to produce and does not have the things that separate good guns from the rest of the pack. In its stock configuration, it has lousy ergonomics, crude sights, and a so-so trigger. The rate of fire makes it challenging to control. -Fortunately, thanks to good aftermarket support, there are things that can be done to address these points. That said, people essentially have to spend a bit of money compensating for the firearm’s inherent issues to turn it into what they want.

    With Stemples, they’re a neat idea poorly executed. The quality control on the Stemples is lacking. I’ve seen some that have had problems with the rivets popping out and awful triggers. If I’m spending thousands of dollars on a NFA gun, I’m not looking for a project gun that needs more work to make it functional and reliable.

    Again, for those who have them or like them, you do not have to justify why you enjoy them. I accept that you do.
     
  16. Misternt

    Misternt Salem Area Active Member

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    There's a few online boards that deal in the sale of NFA weapons. There's a limited amount of dealers locally that stock machineguns.

    I would recommend an m16 given your budget. Lots of parts availability, customization, and you can use one lower with multiple uppers. You could have a short 5.56 upper, long 5.56 upper, 9mm upper, 22 upper. Plus they are collectible and have a lot more appeal than cheaper alternatives like MAC-10's etc.

    If you're spending the time and the money and if it interests you may want to consider buying one more suppressors as well.
     
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  17. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    If I had $30K to blow on machine guns, I would do this.

    1- Ruger AC-556
    1- Uzi
    1- Mac10
    1- M16
    1- and if I found good deals on the above 4, I would add a Reising Model 50
     
  18. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    I know that Tom Denall near Bend has had a reasonable number of select-fire guns in stock in the past, maybe he still does. Give him a call.

    541-410-0559
    tdmfg@earthlink.net
     
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    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    Also... I have a friend with a select-fire Uzi. It's a great gun, lots of fun to shoot. Highly recommended.

    If it were me and I had that much to spend on NFA stuff I would get two guns, an Uzi and an AR with suppressors for both. That should eat up your $30k nicely.
     
  20. 66PonyCar

    66PonyCar Tigard, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Old school for me. Thompson M1928A1 with drum mag, cooling fins on barrel and Cutts compensator.